Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
> 
> on 1/4/02 12:00 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 2) Related to POI.  As long as they know the current state of Jakarta and
> >  can make an informed decision, and meet all the criteria described in
> >  http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html, then they have my +1.
> >  After all, what good is it to have published criteria which omits
> >  important "details" like "Jon will block if he feels that Jakarta is
> >  fucked up today"?  ;-)
> 
> Sam...not even funny... I never gave a vote so don't put words into my
> mouth.

Funny, I share Sam's vision entirely.

> >  Oh, and Stefano's stewardship more than sufficiently meets that
> >  particular criteria in my book.
> 
> Yea, after I wrangled it out of him. This whole fucked mess would have been
> averted if Stefano had simply stepped up and said he would take stewardship.
> Multiple times, I said that that was needed and it *finally* got stated by
> him. 

Here is my *FIRST* email on the subject (Thu, 03 Jan 2002 01:47:02
+0100)

> Please, keep me copied since I'm not currently subscribed to 
> general@jakarta
>
> "Andrew C. Oliver" wrote:
>
> >I don't see any convincing reason to bring POI to Jakarta, unless I see
> >that
> >you have a Jakarta PMC member champion your cause. Stefano's
> >recommendation
> >to you isn't enough, he or someone else needs to be a committer and
> >interested in working and overseeing your project.
>
>I do.

On all the others mail lists I'm subscribed, that would have been
enough, but not here.

That makes me wonder about the real causes of this "whole fucking mess"
and "jakarta is fucked up today" feelings of yours...

-- 
Stefano Mazzocchi      One must still have chaos in oneself to be
                          able to give birth to a dancing star.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>                             Friedrich Nietzsche
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