Any takers? Hard to tell where we're going when we don't know where we've been.
Here's all I got: http://java.apache.org/main/constitution.html Pier to Jon - Thu, 21 Dec 2000 > We've traveled a long > way together, from my very first steps in open-source land in January 1998, > to our marvelous meeting at the first ApacheCON in October 1998, the Jakarta > room meeting, all JavaONEs, and all we did together to bring this project > where it is right now. Pier again, same day > And we, as the newly formed Apache Software Foundation, accepted that code > in donation as a point of start for the Jakarta Project. I was there, in > that meeting room, that day when we outlined how the process would have > evolved, with Jon, Stefano and Brian. And I was there, on stage at JavaONE, > when Patricia Sueltz announced the spinoff of the project againg with Jon, > Stefano and Brian. If that has been a wrong decision, we four are the people > to blame... Sam, last Thursday > Let me relate a little tale about how this whole project got started. Once > upon a time there was a project named Tomcat. Pretty much off of the > committers were from a three letter company on the left coast. They knew > each other pretty well, and talked often. The way they made decisions were > to schedule a conference room, invite all of the relevant parties and have > a meeting. The 3.0 release plan was done this way. Since the project was > technically "open source" they presented their results as a fait accompli > to the mailing list. A few months later, they realized that each of them > had vacation plans and so they decided to cut the release 3.0. > > Suffice it to say, this was not received well. There was a length thread > started by Jason Hunter with the subject line of "I've been sideswiped", or > some such. Shortly thereafer, I became the Tomcat 3.1 release lead, put a > stop to this nonsense, and a few months later was a PMC member, Apache > member, and now PMC chair. > > Lessons to be learned by all of this: > > 1) binding decisions should not be made offline. Votes should be made > in public. > > 2) colluding offline and then voting as a block will invite in a > backlash http://jakarta.apache.org/site/pmc/ -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web http://www.husted.com/struts/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>