Also, stop crossposting to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pick one list or the other, please.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Esterkin, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:55 PM Subject: RE: EJB = bad = MS.net - worrisome flow of ignorant off-topic "advice" on this board > I hope not many enterprise applications are built using this ignorant > 'advice'. IBM argued against EJBs up until recently because of countless > deficiencies in EJB container implementation in WebSphere 3.5.*. Since > WebSphere 4.0 introduction, they have clearly warmed up to using EJBs in > their "best practices" white papers. > > As any other technology, EJBs can be abused. If one mapped a fully > normalized DB schema consisting of 500 data tables to 500 entity beans, this > would be an idiotic architecture. In any case, this has nothing to do with > MVC or Struts. > > I suggest members of this list stick to the main topic of discussion - > Struts. Struts has nothing to do with EJBs. In a properly designed > application, EJBs, DAOs or any other persistence related components > shouldn't be accessed directly from presentation elements and components, > such as JSP tags. > > Sticking closer to the topic of this list will allow to reduce the flow of > postings to more reasonable levels. > > Best regards, > ---------------- > Alex Esterkin > ============================================================= > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vic Cekvenich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:42 > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: EJB = bad = MS.net > > > Home page of Jakarta has this > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html#0130.2 > on this: > http://www.mail-archive.com/general%40jakarta.apache.org/msg03376.html > > I agree. Doing EJBs is bad on many levels and creates more problems. > Avoid EJB if you want to stay in Java. > > Alternative is to just use Struts + TomCat + RowSet (or DAO if you are > doing something simple or small) and done. This is the sweet spot. MVC > is all you need. > > Alternative, do EJBs and your organization WILL switch to MS .NET on the > next project, leave J2EE, and you have to learn VB.net. > > EJBs are for newbies. (If you need middleware (very rare) use SOAP) > > lol, > Vic > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
