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Peter Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 06:47, Ceki G�lc� wrote:
> > All very good points. The question on my mind is whether these
> > problems can be corrected in the future by opening up the (JCP) Java
> > Community Process or whether the closed-like-a-clamp is a symptom
> > of a more serious and profound disease - my suggested name would
> > be "clampitis."
>
> Actually I don't think that this is a huge problem in most JSRs. Theres is
> basically thrre types of information shared on a JSR.
> 1. Information to share between EG members (most restrictive)
> 2. Information to share between EG members and EG members host organization
> (ie sun employees can talk to Sun EG member)
> 3. Information that can be shared with public
>
> Due to the structure of most JSRs (3) is not actually made available to the
> public and I would like that to change but I am not sure it would be good for
> java to remove (1) and (2).
I think a lot of people within the ASF are fans of Open Communication.
Privacy is important... but within development issues I think we should lean
strongly to keeping (3) as the majority.
If you want to do 1 and 2... use private email.
> Why are they needed? Well some companys wont take part in the discussions
> unless there (2). For instance I would hate to see Sony not adopt java in its
> next playstation due to this - and I think they would not have joined JSR134
> if they had to openly reveal "proprietary" IP.
Sure... I understand... I also totally appreciate this. However it should not
be used as an excuse to limit (3)... which I believe it currently is.
> It is also useful for some people who publish papers for a living (ie
> academics and researchers at big companys) as they usually can not freely
> distribute papers until given the thumbs up by publishers. However as an EG
> member I would prefer to see a relevent paper earlier than sooner.
<snip/>
Yes... then I would suggest that they DON'T participate in the JCP or Open
Source community until they can publish...
Kevin
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