> -----Original Message----- > From: Ceki G�lc� [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [...] > First, we don't know how much money Sun gets from licensing.
>From the top of my head, historically Sun makes 3% on the revenue made from the licenses. As always, this base number is of course negociable depending on the licensee, I bet Pramati does not pay the same price as IBM or BEA does. > Second, the price of the license will drop if independent > implementations are allowed. For App Servers, I think the barrier of > entry is in the difficulty implementating the spec not in the > licensing. > It's going to be JBoss, Weblogic, and Webspere for a long time. As > such, BEA and IBM will be thrilled to see a lower price -- > assuming the price was high. Does someone has numbers on JBoss deployment ? Marc Fleury always mentions 'downloads', but hey, I downloaded JBoss maybe 10 times, that does not make me a commercial user. The latests numbers says: BEA 34%, IBM 34%, Sun 7%, Oracle 6%, Sybase 4%, HP 3%, others 12% http://news.com.com/2100-1001-865566.html In 'others' there are loads of app servers (I think there are about 20 more or less j2ee in the wild). It is my understanding that huge corporations like banks (especially in france - they have trouble coming to BEA) will always come close to IBM due to their long time partnership and other huge corporation do not worry much about the price of the app server IMHO. Clearly when a bank buys from $100M of various licenses related to j2ee, there will be MUCH more involved in development for the next 10 years or so... JBoss would be into these corporations tomorrow, then they will face a problem of training/support, clearly there will be a scalability problem, you can't send the developpers to do this training, you will be forced to dilute your knowledge and delegate to other companies certified as JBoss -official-trainers or such. Strictly my opinion of course. I'm not a visionary and often wrong. :) > Again, my claims are long on speculation and short on facts. Same. I do not have the contract. :) Stephane -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
