On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 18:22, Danny Angus wrote: > I think what I'm trying to say is that if we want to reconcile the > conflicting aims of having a small manageable group who can communicate, and > *reach**decisions* easily with encouraging large number of participants it > needs to be in some way fractal. >
This is why I think we need an infrastructure subproject for jakarta. Those who really care about what goes on site2 can join the infrastructure project. Those that actually contribute become committers. > What is there to be gained by giving every commiter access to jakarta-site2? > or deadalus? filtering memberships & permissions and whatever else will > strengthen, or at least not dilute, the "brand". > whooa..ho ho.. Do you know what a pain it was to get the POI site up with no direct access in the hands of any of the project committers? (The well meaning goal was to restrict access to the server).. We had to store all the generated HTML/javadoc/etc in CVS which was very painful for our Australian committers/contributers. While I don't think everyone should have access, don't solve the traffic problem by shutting down the road system. > Yet to encourage participation we need to have levels of membership which > are comparativly easy to attain and bring with them some kudos. > By demoting the committers? Why that will bring them lots of warm fuzzies. -Andy > d. > > > > > Naw, I like the PMC being elected by the greater body of committers. I > > think that keeps em honest. There already is the ASF that functions > > somewhat more as you say. Jakarta is somewhat of a flat organization, > > and I think thats a good thing. Too many steps in the hierarchy and > > sooner or later you have a bureaucratic unmovable body. > > > > -Andy > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in Java http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project structure a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex Projects! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
