> > On Wed, 2002-05-29 at 14:04, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> > >  I don't think
> > > there is anything to forbid a community from temporarily granting CVS
> > > access.
> >
> > ;)
> >
> > Well, I think our guidelines forbid us. You cannot give someone CVS
> > access without giving them all the committer rights and responsibilities
> > as well. That's the point of the discussion, innit?
> 
> Yes, it is.
> 
> I regard CVS as the heart of our system.
> Would you make a well known surgeon operate your heart without knowing him
> first, and being sure he can assist you afterwards?

This is somewhat different - no lives are at stake, the "operation" can
be reversed, etc etc.

> Personally, I would prefer not have the patch at all, if it means giving
> access to the CVS to someone you don't trust.
> And if you trust him, there is no time limit.
> Nothing prevents him from asking his account to be deleted anyway.
> 
> If you invite someone in the boat with you, it's because you think that
> he'll be part of the group, and share roles and responsibilities; I don't
> think we need technical "repairmen" here.
> I may be wrong, but for me it's a matter of trust, personal trust.

don't let a bad example get in the way of the general idea. You should
trust this person, and he should trust you. Making him a committer is
not the only way to express this trust.

> I have been contributing stuff to Cocoon since version 1.7, but never
> proposed as a comitter.
> Why?
> Because I wasn't ready for OS collaboration, and they didn't trust me.
> 
> This made me stronger, and I learned a lot.
> Now you made me come in Avalon just on my word and good proposition, and
> this is something I will never forget. It has a very strong meaning for me.

I can totally relate to that story...I probably wouldn't be here if I
hadn't, at one time, been welcomed in the same way.

> 
> I would like that others have these possibilities, that have made me learn a
> lot.
> I'm afraid that having "technitians" would break up this system.

You mean being proposed and accepting to be a "technitian" reduces
educational value for beginning OSS developers and reduces the drive for
them of becoming committers later?

that might just be true.

cheers,

- Leo



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