Thanks for pointing out the Incubator. It looks like a fine way to get
started. I will follow-up with the Incubator process later this month when
things quiet down for the holidays.

Your "viable community" comment has me puzzled. Would you please explain
your thoughts on the makings of a viable Apache community? I'm very flexible
and creative. Your comments might show me a better way of running this
project.

Thanks.

-Frank

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> From: Peter Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 21:31:02 +1100
> To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: TestMaker and Jakarta
> 
> I know some people that are big fans of TestMaker and would love to see it at
> Apache. The problem is that Testmaker does not fit our requirements for a
> community. In the end it doesn't matter about the quality of the code, the
> number of users, downloads etc unless you do have a viable community.
> 
> If you are not deterred by this then I would recomend tht you go over to
> incubator.apache.org andsubmit it there where you can hopefully "grow" a
> community in Apache style.
> 
> On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:20, Frank Cohen wrote:
>> I wanted to bring the Jakarta general list up to date on my progress with
>> TestMaker. Here's how the project stands now:
>> 
>> 1) The PushToTest web site that supports TestMaker is getting 110-160
>> unique visitors a day. The traffic comes mostly from Google searches.
>> Additional traffic comes from a variety of software development, QA and IT
>> sites. Plus, I have 5 articles on Web Service development and scalability
>> issues on IBM developerWorks that link to the PushToTest site.
>> 
>> 2) TestMaker downloads average 100-300 per day. The difference from the Web
>> site visitors is that TestMaker is listed on Freshmeat with a blind link to
>> download the software. Registration for announcements is optional and so
>> far 2165 people have registered. I send newsletters every 5-6 weeks.
>> 
>> 3) Support email lists get 5-10 postings per week. I respond to 90% of them
>> myself. Replies also come from contributors and committers.
>> 
>> 4) TestMaker 3.1 was completed on November 12, 2003. The next version is
>> 3.2 which should be up by the end of December and will feature
>> SMTP/POP3/IMAP protocol handlers.
>> 
>> 5) Coding on the .NET version of TestMaker began on November 2, 2002. The
>> new software will feature a C# library of protocol handlers and primarily
>> use VB.NET as its scripting language. I will author a series of articles
>> and likely a book on testing .NET Web Services in support of the code.
>> TestMaker .NET will be licensed under an Apache-style license as is the
>> current TestMaker 3.1. We should be done in Spring, with beta in February.
>> 
>> 6) I am earning consulting money being the "go-to" guy for enterprises
>> needing to solve scalability problems in interoperating systems, especially
>> Web Services. I'm putting food on my families' table by customizing
>> TestMaker to meet enterprise customer needs. While this is still primarily
>> a solo show, 6 people provided contributions to TestMaker 3.1 and 2 more
>> are committers.
>> 
>> I am still interested in donating TestMaker to Jakarta.
>> 
>> -Frank
> 
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> 
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