On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 10:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, for instance, I was once interviewed for a contract to hire gig atIn my brief association with the ASF, I have never heard of a person being discriminated against because of their employer.
Microsoft. (This was circa '97 prior to my involvment in Java). Had I sold
my soul, would I still be able to be a member of Apache?
[SNIP]
Or since the JCP seeks to create a spec for everything, what if I work forIn the US, you are always a potential litigation target, no matter who you work for, or what you do.
some other company which say puts out anything to do with "Micro" devices
(pdas, etc) or portals. Am I a potential object of litigation just through
my association with Apache and Apache's association with the JCP?
It's the compromise we/I willingly make to be able to work inside the process to help shape it the way we/I think it should be shaped. The only alternative is to try to start another standards body, but I think you will find that, like the other standards bodies, that NDA's will be a part of the process if you want serious players to participate. One of the big issues surrounding standards is the inclusion/discussion of proprietary information offered by participating entities (companies). Whether or not you like the existence of commercial entities in the process, they are there.
I'd sure feel a lot less fear, uncertainty and doubt if all my fellow apache
members weren't under NDAs carrying around tainted knowledge which is
proprietary of Sun. It seems an open process would sure make the JCP a
whole lot more appealing.
geir
But then.... I'm weird like that.-Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:38 AM Subject: Re: niceOn Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:We have 'infiltrated' it. The ASF is a member of the J2SE/J2EEYeah I know. Thus my questions as to whether Apache/you should/could be
executive committee (I am the current representative), and we have many
members (and non-members) participating in various JSRs.
saying anything against the negative views of the JCP.
FYI - Through the significant efforts of Jason Hunter, the previous JCP
rep, and others (Chuck Murko, for example), the ASF was instrumental in
fostering change in the JCP process, and will continue to do so.
This is about all I do hear regarding ASF/JCP.There is a JCP mail list, but because of various non-disclosureJust the FAQs. Like, does Apache have a non-profit membership? So that
agreements made by the ASF, it's limited to ASF members, who are bound
by the same agreements. If there is sufficient interest in an open JCP
discussion list, I'm sure we can set that up.
anyone who is an ASF member is able to be on multiple JSRs, or are you all
members via your companies?
As a member through Apache, does that cause any legal contractual issues
with employers?
Hen
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