Ah... what's going on with this below finally?? Discussions have gone away in a dense fog??
Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 19:58:06 +0100 (Subject: Re: The vendors page) robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FWIW i think that the original arguments which lead to the creation of the > vendors page are still relevant. it's very hard for any folks here to > judge the merit (or otherwise) of companies providing support. on the > other hand, there was a definite demand from users and vendors for a > dating service. > > the original rule seemed to be a good one (a minimal test which some > vendors have failed) as well having the merit of simplicity. on the other > hand i do think that andrew's arguments have served a useful purpose in > making us think harder about the purpose of that page. i also agree with > alex in that probably the future direction is to something more > apache-wide. > > on the other hand, i think that michael's answers have been reasonable and > give him at least as much a reason as many of the existing vendors. unless > i hear some good reasons not to, i'll probably commit something along > those lines sometime soonish. i might also try to think of some ways to > reorganize the page. > > - robert > > On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 10:08 AM, Alex McLintock wrote: > > > At 09:51 02/07/03 -0400, Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote: > >> I'm tending towards the argument that if you can convince someone who > >> has the right access to update > >> the vendors.xml > >> page, then you deserve to be on the list. > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > Yep - so basically this should be decided on a subproject-level in > >> > Jakarta's case. I doubt *anyone* is able to support *all* Jakarta > >> > subprojects on a level that he/she serves his customers well. > >> > Suggestion: move this page away from the Jakarta main site, and > >> > stimulate subprojects to host their own vendor pages. > >> > > >> > </Steven> > >> > -- > >> > Steven Noels http://outerthought.org/ > > > > > > I'm not sure of the point of a Vendors page. There are so many different > > types of "vendors" covering so many projects that a single page - or even > > a single XML is not necessarily the right thing. > > > > I started a database of companies who support open source software but I > > am not sure it is the right as it is. > > > > I think Apache has grown large enough to need a database of trainers, > > consultants, developers, vendors, and other support companies who will > > provide assistence with using Apache software. > > > > We had a small mailing list for discussing these sorts of commercial > > aspects to using Apache software but it never really got off the ground. > > > > Alex McLintock ----------------------------------------------------- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]