I for one am hoping the IP stuff is resolved soon.  We are planning to evaluate 
Hivemind along with a couple other component frameworks for Jetspeed 2 to replace the 
temporary Fulcrum implementation that is current in place.  I have been reading the 
Hivemind docs and must say I am pretty excited play around with it.

Regards,
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Howard M. Lewis Ship [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:03 AM
> To: 'Jakarta General List'
> Subject: RE: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework / status
> 
> I'm trying to track down that myself. I need to give my friends at WebCT a
> call, to see where they
> are with the software grant. Between that, ApacheCon, a bad cold (how's
> that ear, Andy?) and the
> 9-to-5 (oh, and painters in my house) I'm falling a little behind.
> 
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
> http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tim O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:29 PM
> > To: Jakarta General List
> > Subject: Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework
> >
> >
> > +1 - there is room enough.
> >
> > On a related note, what is the current status of HiveMind?
> > the site is
> > still blanked out in Commons.  Could someone please update
> > general as to
> > the current situation re: HiveMind?
> >
> > Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> >
> > >I don't think that Avalon has any right to have a stranglehold on all
> > >service frameworks.  I also must say that I hate the "come
> > discuss this in
> > >'our' house" approach to collaboration.   One size does not
> > fit all and
> > >Avalon has shown over the years that this is especially true
> > for it.  I say
> > >that Howard Lewis Ship is a skilled coder and community
> > builder and if he
> > >wants to give it a try with HiveMind, while the topic bores
> > me personally,
> > >I'll give him my support.  If he does want to collaborate with the
> > >Avalonites (Avaloners?) then he should be encouraged to do
> > so; however, if
> > >his approach is different enough to warrant its own show
> > then I encourage
> > >him to do that as well.  I trust his judgment to that effect.
> > >
> > >We have Struts, Turbine, and Avalon.  We have Velocity, JSP,
> > XSLT, etc.  We
> > >have commons digester and XMLBeans...  None are "preferred"
> > and BTW Avalon
> > >isn't even "preferred" as Tomcat, for instance, doesn't use it.
> > >
> > >To suggest that there can be only one "true" service
> > framework is misguided,
> > >IMHO.
> > >
> > >-Andy
> > >
> > >On 11/18/03 12:49 AM, "Stephen McConnell"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>I'm moniroting the avalon dev list.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>Howard:
> > >>
> > >>As mentioned earlier there are some things that would be
> > interesting to
> > >>discuss over on the avalon dev list.  Perhaps you could put
> > forward you
> > >>thoughts about the potential or lack thereoff on
> > collaboration.  I think
> > >>some good points have already been put on the table for
> > working together
> > >>and for working apart - but just at the moment these
> > thoughts are only
> > >>on the table and no real discussion is happening as a
> > result.  I think
> > >>that could change if we were to go beyond mutual monotoring.
> > >>
> > >>Cheers, Steve.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>--
> > >>>Howard M. Lewis Ship
> > >>>Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> > >>>http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> > >>>http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
> > >>>http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>-----Original Message-----
> > >>>>From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Stephen McConnell
> > >>>>Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:10 PM
> > >>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>>Subject: Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>I've put up a limited copy of the HiveMind documentation on
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>my personal home page:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Howard:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Are you open to the idea of discussing some mutual areas
> > of interest?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>There are a number of aspects of the work you are doing that are
> > >>>>complimentary with the work on-going in Avalon, and
> > several areas in
> > >>>>Avalon which after review your material are complimentary
> > >>>>with your own
> > >>>>efforts.  Can I get you to sign up to the avalon dev list
> > bacause I
> > >>>>would very much like to discuss this further together with
> > >>>>other members
> > >>>>of the Avalon crew.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Details for the Avalon dev list are available at the
> > following URL:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>   http://avalon.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
> > >>>
> > >>>I'm looking forward to hearing from you.
> > >>>
> > >>>Cheers, Stephen.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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