-Harish
Stephen Colebourne wrote:
Not really (my POV)
As people we naturally think in terms of the hierarchy ASF to Jakarta to MySubProject. But the middle layer is artificial. It could just as well be XML or DB or WebApps or Java or C or 'Projects starting with S' or 'Projects where Joe Bloggs works'. There simply is no one way of categorizing, hence there actually is no one community either. (ie. 'the jakarta community' simply does not exist in my eyes)
The alternative is a one layer structure ASF to MyProject which gives full oversight, management and confidence both to the ASF and the ASF. Separately, there is a search website that allows searches by all the different ways that you might want to look things up.
After all, the one layer (TLP) structure didn't harm Ant or James, and almost certainly benefitted Maven, Avalon and from the looks of it Log4J. In the end, actions will speak louder than words.
Stephen
----- Original Message ----- From: "Harish Krishnaswamy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
That's true, so back to Jakarta = "Server side web development"! But is it
restricted only to Java
web development or just plain web development?
-Harish
Henri Yandell wrote:
Because it's wrong.
XML has lots of Java bits, and Maven, Ant, Cocoon, Avalon, James are all Java Development and not in Jakarta.
If we go with this approach, we end up with the continuation of: "should digester be in jakarta or xml" etc. Does XML take precedence over the
fact
it's in Java, or does it just depend on which community creates or
invites
the codebase. As they have to go through the Incubator now [or be fast-tracked with the board's new scheme Greg mentioned], is the
community
inviting them in as important as it used to be.
I'd much rather find a real subtitle for Jakarta that fits well [Cocoon
is
Java web development, but only indirectly I think, ditto for Avalon].
Hen
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Harish Krishnaswamy wrote:
How about Jakarta = "Java Development"? Then, they all seem in place,
no?
-Harish
Henri Yandell wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Costin Manolache wrote:
IMO it would be sad if projects like struts or tapestry leave
jakarta -
since they are closely related to web development and "server side"
java
( compared with log4j or regexp for example ).
So, Jakarta = "Server side web development" is the subtitle.
Log4J, POI, ORO, Regexp, all of Commons except HttpClient, Latka and FileUpload, Gump, BSF, BCEL are the ones that seem most out of place in that they don't focus on that subtitle.
Slide would be if a WebDAV TLP were to arrive.
Just as a flamebait suggestion :)
Hen
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