On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:32:31 +0100 Stefan Bodewig wrote:
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Depends on what you consider a sister resource.
At least, I guess robert is considering planetapache would be one of them :) -- external resources to apache.org domain
This is to broad to me for a general "I'll add some unless anybody objects". I'd like to know which you'll add unless anybody objects.
my original suggestion for something like 'Resources (Unofficial)'. i have a great deal of respect for the people running the translation websites but (after following numerous debates on matters related to official translations) i think that it's important to indicate that the translated sites are not officially approved by the ASF. planetapache is very cool and it's a shame that it's not linked anywhere from the jakarta home page. i was pondering about adding a link below the translations (but in the same section).
in some ways, though, it's really bigger than that: it's also about one road that the ASF seems to be starting to traveling down. it seems to me that we're starting to reach out to a larger but more diffuse community. at the same time, the organization is becoming more centralized and policy driven. it seems to me that these conflicting ideas are likely to be reflected in the ASF websites. the scope of websites hosted by the ASF will probably need to be more tightly policed with some content moving away to related resources. users will need to be able to find these related resources which will be hosted offshore (rather than by the ASF).
i know that some people will say: 'why not just let people google?'. for me, the problem is that google isn't quite what it used to be (or at least, that's the way it seems to me). it's no good expecting users to know about a useful site which isn't linked and is google ranked below fifty.
i don't know if people have been following the debates on licensing but it seems to me likely that jakarta may need to think about providing links to downstream packagers (to allow users to obtain full, ready-to-run distributions) sooner or later. offshore pages may also be a better solution to problems like the vendor's page. (struts has gone down this route.)
but that's all for the future. at the present, i just wanted to think about renaming translations and to think about adding planetapache :)
no ulterior motives, i promise :)
- robert
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