> But those projects won't have 3 > active committers. Watchdog and ECS are good examples.
IMO The Watchdog debate, that resulted in you and I accepting a monitoring role, is a good outcome. Basically Jakarta is a single ASF project, the PMC is responsible for everything, and the notion of herierchy and delegation are being phased out. Therefore we can insist upon PMC members as active commiters on active projects, but that doesn't mean that the converse, we must have active commiters on inactive projects, is true. We must have PMC members as active participants, but participation on an inactive project is as little as monitoring the mail and acting as the first point of contact for anyone who wants to revitalise the project, or providing a heads-up to the rest of the PMC should any "issue" arise. I don't think we need do more than close the mailing lists of inactive projects and direct people to this (general@) list as long as we can be confident that someone here will take an interest in any mail that arrives. Don't forget that PMC members have karma (or the right to be given karma) for all of the sub-projects, meaning that (a) no subproject should ever be without a PMC member/commiter and (b) by making the distinction be "active comiters" we're making a rod for our own backs, when we could ask for "active participants" and allow PMC members to be included in the audit of accountability even if they only read and respond to mail. d. *************************************************************************** The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient) please notify us immediately on 0141 306 2050 and delete the message from your computer. You may not copy or forward it or use or disclose its contents to any other person. As Internet communications are capable of data corruption Student Loans Company Limited does not accept any responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. For this reason it may be inappropriate to rely on advice or opinions contained in an e-mail without obtaining written confirmation of it. Neither Student Loans Company Limited or the sender accepts any liability or responsibility for viruses as it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Opinions and views expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and may not reflect the opinions and views of The Student Loans Company Limited. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************** --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]