I can't quite see us managing this by tomorrow <:-) Actually my concern is that we may add stuff to Java that harms rather than helps (Java isn't C or C++). So, my question remains whether we have any opportunity to vote against bad ideas.
Anyway, its good to have some interaction with Sun ;-) Stephen --- "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First, the ideas can be discussed on the mailing > list, but we should collect > them on the Wiki. Second, we should try to > prioritize them. Third, I have > some feedback already on the good stuff posted, and > have been asked if we > can provide some use cases, e.g., for continuations. > Not that the ideas > aren't good, but the use cases will bolster the > arguments internally at Sun > for why a given feature is important. > > FWIW, I'm told that some of the ideas are already > planned, so that should > make folks happy. I'm hoping that we'll get some > direct feedback on the > Wiki page from Sun. > > --- Noel > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Colebourne > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 19:54 > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Deciding on Java futures? > > > How are we deciding on the Java Futures? Are we > voting? Just talking? > > There are wide ranging views here, from add no more > (JDK1.5 was bad enough) > to add everything but the kitchen sink. > > The wiki has some simpler ideas which haven't been > shouted down yet, like > jar in jar and access to the Class from a static > context. I also think we > could leverage Jakarta Commons to get small useful > methods added in a review > and tidy up of the core libraries (which is > desparately needed). Perhaps we > could agree on these? > > Could I suggest on language features, that our best > approach would be to ask > Sun to allow us to discuss (in private if necessary) > their proposed > additions in the next few months. That way we can > feedback early our > experiences and maybe avoid adding unecessary or > innappropriate 'features'. > (Personally I am on the side of most of the JDK1.5 > additions being poor > choices that harm Java) > > Stephen > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]