On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote:
On 1 Jan 2005, at 11:45, Henri Yandell wrote:On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote:On 29 Dec 2004, at 16:10, Henri Yandell wrote:
I'm a fan of the www.apache.org look and how it gives us a lot more usability in terms of available column space. I'd like to change Jakarta to the 3-columns (though not the l&f or anything).
Switching to 3-columns means less space in the center for content, however I also want to simplify the content so I think it will look fine.
Any views?
if we're moving to this format, then i'd suggest getting rid of the news section. http://www.apachenews.org/ does this much better than us. we're not even getting syndicating on stuff like java.net anymore so i'm now really sure it's worth the effort.
Even our own release news?
ditch the whole lot :)
not only is it no longer pleasing to the eye (in those three columns) but it also ineffective...
I see us just focusing on our own news; xxx moves to TLP, yyy moves out of Commons, 10.4 of Foo released etc.
jakarta isn't the important resource it used to be for news. our place has been taken. people no longer come to read our news.
it would be far more effective to ensure that the announcements are made to the right lists, that the resources which are important now (java.net, apachenews.org, serverside.com) receive the news and that users know which announcement lists they should subscribe to.
Unconvinced. None of those resources are good at supplying historical news; apachenews has the common blog problem of a calendar-view being a poor historical index, java.net seems to have no history and theserverside.com uses a linked-list style system to get old news. The last two also have a high noise to signal level for Jakarta info.
The only good source for Apache news is the mail-archive for the announcement lists, but there's a bizarre plethora of those, which is another item on my to-investiage list. Do we need jakarta-announcements, why do other TLPs not all have it, why do I get announcements over community@ etc.
I definitely think we should dump the elsewhere news, and the news.html page needs to dump the top two paragraphs as unnecessary.
Hen
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