Hmmm...Other similar effforts:
-) https://ajax.dev.java.net/
-) https://phobos.dev.java.net/
-) http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/
There are probably others. Not that your ideas aren't good, but in the very
small amount of experience I've had with open source projects you may find
the easiest form of joining/recieving an invitation is to knuckle down and
write some code to present to someone(s) instead.
On 6/13/06, Jihoon Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
First of all, thank you for your responses/advices [as my biggest
concern was bypassing the filters and etceteras to reach the reader].
Whew, but with that obstacle out of the way.........here I type.
In response to "Henning Schmiedehausen" =>
In regards to the statement :
' The incubator is not really about
"incubating code", it is more about
"incubating communities" ' :
2*[I C]. That's interesting, especially since I was thinking
the inverse, llc [laugh like crazy].
In regards to the general email :
Yes I have actually looked through existing projects
such as :
Abdera, MyFaces, Tapestry, Jakarta, and etceteras and
their sub projects
as according to "The Process of Incubation" which states
' By simply lurking on the project mailing lists
you may get ideas about who you would like
to ask to help you with your project proposal. '.
Hmmm...., so that was the selection criteria in my To list,
llc [laugh like crazy]. Also "The Process of Incubation"
is being put to good use.
Secondly, I think I will take your advice and consider
joining one of the existing projects. I just emailed
the people wondering if they would consider spanning
it as a sub project of their main project or provide an
invitation =).
For my idea was to have one to one
relationship between Java class and .js file.
Just for clarity, in my organization's project and
my experiment project this is what I did =>
(a) Created a Java class with APIs that manipulated
StringBuffer instances. So there exists a base
class which creates data structure for the data
provided [using the StringBuffer to create
javascript objects later to be created in page]
and each sub class would have it's own unique
creation [i.e. new Table, new Syndicate,
new Calendar, etceteras].
(b) Invoked a function which flushed out the
StringBuffer instances in the JSP.
(c) Invoked that function within the onload event of
the page [which had reference to the .js files],
creating javascript objects with built in
functionality [i.e. dynamic table which allowed
various functionalities]
So the bulk of the complexity was shifted to javascript
objects, which allowed efficient use of our resources.
Thank You for your response.
In response to "Will Glass-Husain" =>
In regards to DWA :
In concept I guess it is somewhat similar, but my main
focus was not upon Ajax but creation of javascript
objects that perform certain functionalities as an object
instance.
So unlike [please pardon if I do make some factual
mistakes, for I only tried to get the gist of the following
open source projects]
DWA
{which mainly focus on Ajax through Java code
and event handling}
and dojo
{which alleviates the pain of javascripting
with its own package of .js files},
my thought was somewhere within the two. It was to use
Java classes to allow setting of the data [i.e. createList,
createElement, createTable, flushString ... ] and .js
files which allow easement of javascripting with predefined
components and functions.
Thank You for your response.
Thank You to both for your time and your advice.
Kewl.
On 6/13/06, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> By the way, have you looked at DWR. Doesn't it do something
similar? If your
> ideas are compatible you might consider adding on to them.
>
> WILL
> ---
> Will Glass-Husain
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Quoting Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Hi Ji,
> >
> > first off, I think that it is not a good thing to send such a mail to
> > literally dozens of people. I'd fear that some of them will readily
> > discard it as unwanted.
> >
> > About your mail: I think the best and easiest way to help the ASF is
not
> > wanting to start a new project right away but to contribute to an
> > existing project. You've mentioned e.g. tag libraries. We do have a
tag
> > library project; just join the mailing lists (see
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/index.html#GettingInvolved) how to
do
> > it and propose your code to the sandbox.
> >
> > As for your Ajax ideas: We do have some Ajax components in projects
but
> > I don't think that the ASF has an explicit "AJAX" project (yet). Maybe
> > the taglibs or other server side projects such as MyFaces (JSF) or
> > Tapestry would be the right place to join if you want to work in that
> > field.
> >
> > The incubator is not really about "incubating code", it is more about
> > "incubating communities"; if you don't already have some code and
> > community that should be brought to the ASF or a group of people that
> > want to start a project with clear defined goals inside the ASF, it is
> > not really the best possible place to start from scratch.
> >
> > So I'd really like to encourage you not just wanting to start a new
> > project but to join one of the existing projects. You would be able to
> > have a flying start and build upon what's already there.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Henning
> >
> > (Gee, 24. I remember when I was that young but it was a long time
> > ago. :-) )
> >
> > On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 19:42 -0400, Jihoon Kim wrote:
> > > Brief Intro and Reason for Email =>
> > > Hi my name is Ji [a.k.a. G {will be 24 by the end of the year}] and
as
> > > I desired to start off a project in the Apache community, I
> > > wanted to know if I could have one of you as my Champion. Since in
the
> > > Process of Incubation it states that "The first thing you will want
to
> > > do is find a Champion for your project.", G thought to do so.
> > >
> > > My Desired Project =>
> > > Anyway.........it really is a simple thing, where I thought to
create
> > > a package of Java classes and .js files to have object orientation
on
> > > both side of the field [server and client]. So that one can do most
> > > of the basic processes on the client side {such as simulating
certain
> > > desktop app functionalities} and give webserver, appserver,
database,
> > > and etceteras some breather.
> > >
> > > Sample of the Thought? =>
> > > I was able to perform the task within my organization and it did
span
> > > off to the production environment in the month of April. This
project
> > > basically included various back end services and my part of the
project
> > > was implemented by using number of Java classes, JSPs, and .js
files.
> > > Seeing that it was quite Kewl and it did please the business people,
I
> > > was wondering if I could span off a complete set of code in the
Apache
> > > community. Another reason is that I did create some small projects
> > > during my spare time for fun and for polishing my coding skill and I
> > > figured it would be better if I attempted to get it to be approved
by
> > > the Apache people rather than simply letting the code sit in my
> > > laptop.
> > > One additional thought was to possibly create a bunch of
> > > tag libraries and allow simple structure [somewhat similar to Flex].
> > > { of course more thought will come with time by myself or from
other
> > > members of the project........if accepted, >8^) }
> > >
> > > Reason for the Project =>
> > > This section is short. I realized that many people did not enjoy
> > > writing javascript, so I thought this would be fun and rather
> > > interesting. Furthermore, since this will allow the user
> > > to create javascript objects without any knowledge of javascript,
> > > I thought it would be quite attractive to those group of people who
> > > do not wish to engage in experimenting with javascript and prefer
> > > to stay within their area of interest [namely Java] For the needed
> > > datastructures and objects would be created through Java
> > > classes [giving the developer the abstraction].
> > > Because of the Latest Hype :
> > > By having object orientated structure on the client
> > > side, modification of the structure would be easy
> > > whenever doing Ajax and whenever you retrieve and
> > > update the syndicate information.
> > >
> > > My Flaws.......but.... =>
> > > Okay, facts are facts and though I wish I could deny it in some way,
I
> > > guess I have no other choice but to face them, dang. I am 24 years
> > > old and as such I probably fall behind many people in relation to
> > > number of years in programming and also knowledge in the programming
> > > field. But I still REALLY.........continued for the next 30
> > > lines......., REALLY like programming and hope that I can learn from
> > > others and try to contribute as best as I can.
> > > ThanK YoU in advance and hopefully I can have a positive feedback.
> > >
> > > Oh yes, if given the chance I will try to keep the efficiency level
in
> > > my program to my upmost capability in process logic [i.e.
> > > O[(n)log(n)], O[log(n)], and O[1] ], allocation of memory, and
design.
> > >
> > > One more request, if you think this project does not have any
> > > potential can I have one of the following feedback? =>
> > > * what was the flaw and where should I improve my thinking
> > > process
> > > * a direction to where I should go
> > >
> > > THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...continued on the next line...
> > > .....................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > Also, ThanK YOU in advance to people who are willing to respond
> > > to this email. Since I wish to reduce number of spams to everyone's
> > > mailbox I will send out one additional email to everyone for thankS
of
> > > even looking at this email, after I hopefully receive an email from
a
> > > willing Champion or after two months of no Champion [whichever comes
> > > first........though I would TRULY prefer the first over the latter].
> >
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