On 3/20/07, Vadim Gritsenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Henri Yandell wrote:
> This 'how we release' conversation has been bouncing around the ASF
> for 4 months now, the above is my best grok on the summary. I've not
> seen anyone yet speaking in favour of a view that we should have a
> vote on the idea of releasing and then someone does it when they can.
> Please bring that up on members@ Vadim - good luck.
That is a tough crowd and I don't think I have enough skills to convince them on
anything. OTOH, you can. It's pity though that ASF is loosing its values.
Problem is that that's the crowd who need to be convinced. Otherwise
we're just sitting here spinning around and around.
It's less that it's losing its values and more that it's increasingly
pushing to have one set of values.
<ancient history - very concise>
Apache begat itself. Then it begat Jakarta somehow. Things were good.
Then Apache looked at Jakarta and it was not pleased for things were
not the same. It argued with itself and declared that things would be
the same. All was good.
</ancient history>
<modern history>
The next day Apache looked at itself and was shocked and amazed to
find that declaring all things to be equal had not made things equal.
In the Outer Rim there were projects and committers who had not heard
the declaration and were not doing things in the same way. Indeed they
had the temerity to do things the same way they'd always done things.
Apache was not happy.
</modern history>
<future history>
Apache gets married, finds a little house in the suburbs and raises
little apachlets. But that's another story.
</future history>
So not losing values - these are Jakarta values that we relinquished 5
years ago.
On the "OTOH"... I've not got the patience for such convincing atm :)
Hen
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