Same response, on the point of copyright.

Are you referring to my statement of Russell's Paradox Resolved instead?

On 6/20/06, Randy MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

R.A.C;

Same question:

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From: "Roy A. Crabtree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I ee you have a thorn in your side as well as your signature ...

It is not so much copyright _law_ I would worry about as it is the issue
_copyright_:

Did you write it? If not, who did?

Did you ask permssion to copy it? Get it in written form, signed?

If not, flip a coin: you are on your own.

As to your mor egeneric question, it would depend on the impact to J
itself
as to how relevan it is:

I would rather see J contiue than not, which means I want the money
involved with J to go to its originators as _they_ choose, not me or any
one
else.

On 6/20/06, Randy MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Ok;
>
> How much of this has to do with J?
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                                    ^^^^^^

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> From: "Miller, Raul D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "General forum" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:55 PM
> Subject: RE: [Jgeneral] Mathematical Roots of J & more musings
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>
> Brian Schott wrote:
> > I too, am no expert, but wonder if this more liberal
> > interpretation is correct.
>
> It's an approximation, which is valid in some circumstances, but it
> is not totally accurate.
>
> Copyright law, in and of itself, grants quite a bit of control over
> the rights to make copies to the person who owns the copyright.
> This part of the law is strict.  (The legal jargon is "irreparable
> harm" -- a judge can give you a preliminary injunction to stop
> whatever copying or distributing you are doing, before the case
> goes to trial, if the issues are clear enough.  If you are a
> business, this can be a very serious economic penalty.)
>
> However, almost all court cases involving copyright also involve
> contract law.  Contract law mostly concerns itself with costs and
> who owes who what.  When copyright permission is granted, it's
> usually granted in the context of a contract, and you can be in
> violation of the contract -- you might not have lost the right to
> make copies of someone else's copyrighted material, but you might
> have to pay more for them than what you have already paid.
>
> That said: you don't have to be making a profit to cause an operating
> loss for someone else.  If your activities are causing problems for
> someone else a loss, you can still be liable for damages under
> contract law.
>
> And so on and so forth, ... there are many other things which might
> be issues, if the people involved disagree about them.
>
> If you don't want to go the expensive route (hiring a lawyer and so
> on), the best thing to do is: make sure that you have clear permission
> for whatever copies you make or give away, and if the copyright holder
> is unhappy with you, try and do everything you can to avoid ever having
> to deal with that copyright holder or the associated copyrighted
> material.  (And if that's not possible -- if the associated material
> is that pervasive -- there's probably a good chance it's not
> copyrightable.)
>
> That said, within a specific and relatively unchanging field (such
> as photography) there are usually a well understood set of standard
> practices that most people follow.  And, for the most part, those
> are what's important.
>
> --
> Raul
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