I disagree (that Y! is always available within seconds),
the only place it is a real nuisance is for urgent messages
(better not to use a free email service if urgency is a
priority) and for things like the forum where it is easy
to "speak out of turn" if a thread has some messages delayed...
Maybe we all have inflated expectations of email.
- joey
At 11:55 -0700 2006/10/20, Oleg Kobchenko wrote:
My point is the statistic like you are giving is not
the true availability of Y!, but the artifact of
the retry logic of particular MTA. Y! is always available
within seconds after a sufficient number of retries.
--- Joey K Tuttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have a few "email clients" on my server that have
their mail forwarded to a yahoo account. It is often
the case that there is a delay from a few minutes to
several hours. Seems Y! are very busy/successful....
Actually, I suspect side-effects of their attempts to
stem the tide of spam.
The "good news" is that they seem to always clear/accept
the messages, eventually.
- joey
At 01:34 -0700 2006/10/20, Oleg Kobchenko wrote:
>I cannot reply to my earlier message because
>I have not received it yet.
>
>It doesn't seem like domain keys.
>
>I tried logging to yahoo mail servers with
>
> telnet mx3.mail.yahoo.com 25
>
>and the pattern is that some of the times (about 1/2)
>it sends "delayed" and immediately shuts off.
>A series of shuts can be up to 8-12 long, but withing
>a few seconds (2-5) after a series of continuous retries
>it's always possible to get a good connection.
>
>So it's a matter of number of retries and delay size
>between retries. If such parameters are configurable
>and feasible to change on the sending mail server.
>
>
>--- Chris Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Oleg Kobchenko wrote:
>> > I also see a huge delay in delivery forum message,
>> > in the magnitude of several hours.
>> >
>> > For example, I see some new messages, 5-6 in the
>> > Forums Archive, but they have not arrived in the
>> > mail box.
>> >
>> > Could this be a problem in the forum engine?
>>
>> The forum engine is working fine.
>>
>> It seems that yahoo does not like jsoftware. The message logs contain
>> several entries like the following. I don't know why this is,
>> particularly since the messages are eventually delivered.
>>
>> postfix/smtp[18257]: 2D47D74C6A3: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> relay=mx3.mail.yahoo.com[4.79.181.12], delay=15475, status=deferred
>> (host mx3.mail.yahoo.com[4.79.181.12] refused to talk to me: 451 Message
> > temporarily deferred - 4.16.50)
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