Is the converse true?  That is, if G is mirror-image
symmetric, then is it necessarily the case that G is
symmetric and rotationally symmetric?  Answer: No.

Again we can work with a matrix of indices:
  G=: 5 5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2e9
  U=: , G
  H=: i.5 5
  G -: H { U
1

M dp G dp |:M  is equivalent to  flip G  where
flip=: |.@:(|."1) .  By definition mirror-image
symmetric means  G -: flip G .  Therefore 
G -: flip^:n G  for all n.

An index matrix for  flip G  obtains by (<.flip) H .
In general:
   G           -: H { U
   (flip    G) -: ((<.flip)    H) { U
   (flip^:n G) -: ((<.flip)^:n H) { U
   (flip^:_ G) -: ((<.flip)^:_ H) { U

So:
   H
 0  1  2  3  4
 5  6  7  8  9
10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24
   ] K=: (<.flip)^:_ H
 0  1  2  3  4
 5  6  7  8  9
10 11 12 11 10
 9  8  7  6  5
 4  3  2  1  0

This last result is mirror-image symmetric but not
symmetric or rotationally symmetric:
   (-: |:) K
0
   (-: rot) K
0



----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Hui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, January 4, 2007 11:42 am
Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] Array-oriented proof?

> Proof sketch:
> 
> 0. Working with G is equivalent to working with
> a matrix of indices into the ravelled values.
> For example:
> 
>   G=: 5 5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2e9
>   U=: , G
>   H=: i.5 5
>   G -: H { U
> 1
>   H
> 0  1  2  3  4
> 5  6  7  8  9
> 10 11 12 13 14
> 15 16 17 18 19
> 20 21 22 23 24
> 
> 1. Since G is symmetric, the matrix H simplifies to
> 
>   H=: (<.|:) H
>   H
> 0 1  2  3  4
> 1 6  7  8  9
> 2 7 12 13 14
> 3 8 13 18 19
> 4 9 14 19 24
> 
> 2. R dp G dp |:R is equivalent to  rot G  where
> rot=: (1&|.)@:(1&|."1) . By (2) G -: rot G .  
> Therefore G -: rot^:n G for all n.
> 
> 3. An index matrix for rot G  obtains by (<.rot) H .
> In general:
> 
>   G          -: H { U
>   (rot    G) -: ((<.rot)    H) { U
>   (rot^:n G) -: ((<.rot)^:n H) { U
> 
> 4. cd G computes the list of counter-diagonals of a 
> square matrix, where
> 
> cd=: (|. +/ ])@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (</.&, /: {./.&,[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ]
> 
> For example, 
>   i. 5 5
> 0  1  2  3  4
> 5  6  7  8  9
> 10 11 12 13 14
> 15 16 17 18 19
> 20 21 22 23 24
>   cd i.5 5
> +--+-----+--------+----------+------------+---------+------+---+-+
> |20|15 21|10 16 22|5 11 17 23|0 6 12 18 24|1 7 13 19|2 8 14|3 9|4|
> +--+-----+--------+----------+------------+---------+------+---+-+
> 
> 5. Assert  (n{.D) -: |.(-n){.D=. cd (<.rot)^:n H
> That is, after n applications of (<.rot), 
> the length n prefix of the counter diagonals of 
> the resultant matrix equals the reverse of the 
> length n suffix.  Therefore, after #H applications
> of (<.rot), the list of counter diagonals matches
> its reversal:
> 
>   D=: cd (<.rot)^:(#H) H 
>   (-: |.) D
> 1
> 
> 6. After #H applications of (<.rot), each counter 
> diagonal has a unitary nub:
> 
>   1 = [EMAIL PROTECTED]&> D
> 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
> 
> 7. A matrix is mirror-image symmetric if its
> counter diagonals satisfy (a) reversal invariance 
> (b) each opened atom has a unitary nub
> 
>   (-: |.) D=: cd H 
>   1 = [EMAIL PROTECTED]&> D
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tuesday, January 2, 2007 11:45 am
> Subject: [Jgeneral] Array-oriented proof?
> 
> > Let G be a square matrix, and 
> > R =: |: (1&|."1) (=&i.) #G      NB. rotation   
> > M =: |: (  |."1) (=&i.) #G      NB. mirror-image 
> > dp =: +/ . *
> > 
> > Prove the following statement:
> > 
> > If
> > (1) G -: |:G              NB. G is symmetric
> > (2) G -: R dp G dp |:R    NB. G is rotationally symmetric
> > then
> > (3) G -: M dp G dp |:M    NB. G is mirror-image symmetric
> > 
> > I can prove this using subscripts (i.e., involving 
> > expressions like (<i;j){G ), but is there a proof 
> > involving just the arrays G, R and M?
> 
> 
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