Hi Terrence;

I've always thought that the frame and its shape were two different things.
I guess it is time to read {J4C} and see which one of us is indeed correct.
I'm not, nor ever will be a C programmer, thus I have not read it.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Terrence Brannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General forum" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] "J for C Programmers" - the frame,concatenated with
the shape of the cells is not equal tothe shape ofthe noun.


> frame shape? that would be redundant.
>
> the frame, is the shape of everything that is not the k-cell.
>
> so for
>    q =: i. 4 5 6
>
> the frame will be
>   4
>   4 5
>   4 5 6
>
> depending on whether you have 2-cells, 1-cells, or 0-cells.
>
> I think I'm right. Somebody put me in my place if I'm not :)
>
> On 4/2/07, ramacd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Terrence;
> >
> > Where on the page is the frame shape stated as 5 6. In my -:blindness I
> > don't see it.
> >
> > (n00bs are good in that they help clothe the emperor; please keep up the
> > questions.)
> >
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Terrence Brannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "General forum" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 6:41 PM
> > Subject: [Jgeneral] "J for C Programmers" - the frame,concatenated with
> > the
> > shape of the cells is not equal tothe shape of the noun.
> >
> >
> > > <quote href = http://www.jsoftware.com/help/jforc/declarations.htm >
> > >
> > > the frame, concatenated with the shape of the cells, will be equal to
> > > the shape of the noun.
> > >
> > > < / quote >
> > >
> > > However, in the second given example, the frame is 5 6 the shape of
> > > the cells is 4
> > > Their concatenation is 5 6 4
> > >
> > > But the shape of the noun is 4 5 6
> > >
> > > Therefore the concatenation is equal to some permutation of the shape
> > > of the noun but not necessarily equal to the shape of the noun.
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