Please disregard this.  John had said the same thing
between the msg I am responding to and my response.



----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Hui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:17
Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] Re: [Jprogramming] packing problem
To: General forum <[email protected]>

> > If the weight vector is w and the value vector is v, and there 
> are n
> > items, the page shows that maximizing s=w (+/ .*) v subject to the
> > constraint s<:W.  The algorithm given is dynamic 
> programming, essentially
> > memoizing recursion, and shows this has asymptotic complexity 
> > O(W*n), and so is in P.
> 
> For computational complexity usually the size of the input
> is considered.  Since the size of W is 2^.W (number of
> bits needed to represent W), the dynamic programming
> solution does not demonstrate that integer knapsack
> is in P.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:20
> Subject: [Jgeneral] Re: [Jprogramming] packing problem
> To: General forum <[email protected]>
> 
> > 
> > Raul Miller wrote:
> > > W is the maximum allowed weight -- it has nothing to do with value
> > > in the problem described at
> > > http://cgm.cs.mcgill.ca/~msuder/courses/360/lectures/integer-
> > knapsack.html>
> > >
> > > At least as I understand it, W=8 means that the knapsack can hold
> > > up to 8 weight units.  And, with n=3, w1=1, w2=2 and 
> > w3=3, the knapsack
> > > will hold six weight units with all three objects in the 
> > knapsack.  As
> > > none
> > > of the values are negative, this also corresponds to the 
> > maximum value
> > > the knapsack can hold.  It's true that the value of the 
> > contents of the
> > > knapsack would be 8, but these are value units and not 
> weight units.
> > >
> > 
> > If the weight vector is w and the value vector is v, and there 
> > are n
> > items, the page shows that maximizing s=w (+/ .*) v subject to the
> > constraint s<:W.  The algorithm given is dynamic 
> > programming, essentially
> > memoizing recursion, and shows this has asymptotic complexity 
> > O(W*n), and
> > so is in P.
> > 
> > Whether this is a good way of solving a small case is not addressed.
> > For example, O(n log n) heapsort is going to be beaten by O(n^2)
> > insertion sort on an array of size 10.
> > 
> > I thought this solved the restaurant problem: w is the cost of each
> > appetizer, v is the number of each you order, and W is the 
> > amount of
> > money you have.  You are trying to find s (and v), and in 
> > particularshow that s=W.
> > 
> > You are restricting to the case where v has entries 0 or 1, 
> > which does
> > not seem to solve the problem.
> > 
> > 
> > > What I was taking as a general statement about the
> > > integer knapsack problem was actually a statement
> > > about the properties of a specific [very bad] algorithm.
> > 
> > I don't see what is so bad about the algorithm described in 
> Step 
> > 3 of
> > the page: it shows that the problem is in P, which I thought 
> was your
> > original question.
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