O.K. We are now allowed to put references in the text as opposed to in 
footnotes.  Why can't we also have errata in the text? e.g.:

   "...learning the language pays of (intended "off") in and outside . . "

Don Watson


----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Hui <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:37 pm
Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] Notation as a Tool of Thought
To: General forum <[email protected]>

> If/when the question is asked, did the editor mess with
> the text?  I want the answer to be unequivocally no.
> 
> There is an example in the paper which indicates which 
> way Ken himself would have gone.  In section 5.4,
> there was a quote from Professor Blaauw.
> http://www.jsoftware.com/papers/tot.htm#5.4
>    ...learning the language pays of in and outside 
>    the field of computer design.
> Obviously, it should have been "pays off".  The way
> Ken solved this problem, was:
>    ...learning the language pays of (sic) in and 
> outside 
>    the field of computer design.
> 
> By the way, I consider it the case that Ken worked 
> with one armed tied behind his back, or at least had
> a couple of fingers tied together.  Specifically, I believe
> a large number of expressions would be slightly simpler
> if the index origin were 0 instead of 1.  And, as mentioned
> several days ago, further simplifications obtain if he had 
> # instead of just rho.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Don Watson <[email protected]>
> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 14:12
> Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] Notation as a Tool of Thought
> To: General forum <[email protected]>
> 
> > There are two papers of interest - the original for historical 
> > purposes and 
> > the corrected one from which people learn. There are three 
> ways 
> > you might do 
> > it: 1) publish both papers 2) publish the original paper with 
> > errata updates 
> > 3) publish the revised paper with notification of the 
> > corrections made.
> > 
> > Those who wish to learn from the paper are likely to be more 
> > numerous - so 
> > you must publish the corrected paper - way 2 is an 
> > unsatisfactory solution. 
> > However, you have way 1 or way 3 from which to choose.
> > 
> > Don Watson
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Devon McCormick" <[email protected]>
> > To: "General forum" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] Notation as a Tool of Thought
> > 
> > 
> > > In general, I agree with Harvey that it makes sense these 
> days 
> > to do 
> > > things
> > > the other way around.  Hey, it's kind of like the "better 
> > ideas" of doing
> > > away with order-of-operations or programming notationally 
> > rather than
> > > lexically: you're bound to get resistance.
> > >
> > > However, in this case, particularly for my purpose of 
> linking 
> > to the
> > > original Turing Award lecture, I agree with Roger that 
> keeping the
> > > historical document "as-is" makes more sense.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Roger Hui 
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I want to be as faithful to the original as reasonable;
> > >> therefore, I am sticking to the current errata arrangement.
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Hahn, Harvey" <[email protected]>
> > >> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:33
> > >> Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] Notation as a Tool of Thought
> > >> To: General forum <[email protected]>
> > >>
> > >> > Roger Hui wrote:
> > >> > |The wrong symbol for floor was in the original paper
> > >> > |and is noted in the Errata section.
> > >> >
> > >> > Errata/Corrigenda sections were obviously necessary in print
> > >> > publications because you can't change the printed page, 
> > but, for
> > >> > pete'ssake, we're now in an online world, and distributable
> > >> > documents should
> > >> > have the correct versions within them.  Why promulgate
> > >> > errors??  There's
> > >> > enough of that on the Internet already!  For repristinators
> > >> > who want to
> > >> > recreate the original error-filled document for themselves,
> > >> > reverse the
> > >> > print-world process and have an "Errors Corrected" 
> section 
> > (containing>> > the print errors) at the end.
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