Roger, your forecast on 128 bit systems, when do you think partial 128 bit  
systems will first appear, and then full 128 bit ones?

thanks

Dick


----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Hui <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:21 pm
Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] Advantages of using J in 64 bit OS
To: General forum <[email protected]>

> To avoid disappointment or misleading your users,
> you should count on a small but definite slow-down
> in a 32-bit app when it is run on a 64-bit system.
> 
> The whole point of 64 bits is the bigger address space,
> and the troubles and complications you avoid by 
> not having to shoehorn some app that's bigger than
> 32 bits into 32 bits.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Rufon <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 0:14
> Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] Advantages of using J in 64 bit OS
> To: General forum <[email protected]>
> 
> > I was trying to read up about 64bit OS and one of the thing 
> they 
> > are pointing out is that it should be faster for some 
> > computations since all the bits would fit in one 64bit word. 
> > 
> > My J application server in production are still using 32bit 
> > CPU's (i.e. Intel Pentium 4 3Ghz single core) and the 
> OS(Win2K, 
> > MSSQL, IIS, etc) are all 32 bits. I've been looking at some 
> > submission by other teams and all of their requirements are 
> > still in 32bit. 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:general-
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of bill lam
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:30 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] Advantages of using J in 64 bit OS
> > 
> > On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Alex Rufon wrote:
> > > Where doing the CAPEX for 2010 and I was hoping to get a 
> 64bit 
> > machine for my J Application Server.
> > > 
> > > Right now, I've only came up with the following justification:
> > > 
> > > 1.       Allows J to allocate 
> > objects greater than 1GB.
> > > 
> > > 2.       Allows J to process 
> > files greater than 2GB.
> > 
> > Assuming you work with mssqlsvr, There are already 64-bit 
> > version of
> > window server 2008 and mssqlsvr 2008.  For 32-bit os, the 
> > sqlsvr alone
> > would eat up almost all available 4GB memory.  J odbc 
> > script can run
> > in 64-bit mode.  Not sure for dotnet (I didnt use).
> > 
> > BTW how can you possibly get a 32bit x86 cpu nowadays (except 
> > atom in
> > netbook or some via chip).
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