> Which makes it more puzzling why you don't read > the documentation, and is quite proud of the fact.
When all else fails... I read the documentation. Though judging by the time I spend reading it, I think that's misleading. But I try to think myself into the mind of my audience. It's of _that_ I'm proud. > Talking about APL (or J) without use of "array", > is like doing Hamlet without the prince. I guess I'm not playing Hamlet. I'm writing a crit for people who've seen it all before. On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Roger Hui <[email protected]> wrote: >> Counsel of perfection, Roger. >> Exactly what I wrote myself, in an IBM internal report in 1981. > > Which makes it more puzzling why you don't read > the documentation, and is quite proud of the fact. > > Talking about APL (or J) without use of "array", > is like doing Hamlet without the prince. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ian Clark <[email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 8:46 > Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] "J In A Day" --crits please > To: General forum <[email protected]> > >> Counsel of perfection, Roger. >> >> Exactly what I wrote myself, in an IBM internal report in 1981. >> >> Nowadays I take the world as I find it. >> >> > in which everything--noun, verb, adverb, conjunction, >> > parenthesis, copula, ..., atom, table, ..., everything-- >> > is an "array". >> >> -- that, as it happens, is most helpful. Thank you for that insight. >> >> But for the present purpose (JinaDay) it makes me even keener to avoid >> the term "array". >> >> "When everybody's somebody -- then no one's anybody" >> (Gilbert & Sullivan, 'The Gondoliers'). >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Roger Hui <[email protected]> wrote: >> > You are putting the cart before the horse. >> > The implementation has to follow the description, >> > and you can not (should not) use the implementation >> > to justify the description. >> > >> > FYI: in the J implementation there is a sense >> > in which everything--noun, verb, adverb, conjunction, >> > parenthesis, copula, ..., atom, table, ..., everything-- >> > is an "array". But the fact would not be helpful >> > to a general audience. >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Don Guinn <[email protected]> >> > Date: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:55 >> > Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] "J In A Day" --crits please >> > To: General forum <[email protected]> >> > >> >> 3!:3]99j1 >> >> e1000000 >> >> 10000000 >> >> 01000000 >> >> 00000000 >> >> 00000000 >> >> 00c05840 >> >> 00000000 >> >> 0000f03f >> >> >> >> J still treats a complex number as a zero rank array. >> >> >> >> 3!:3]99r2 >> >> e1000000 >> >> 80000000 >> >> 01000000 >> >> 00000000 >> >> 18000000 >> >> 30000000 >> >> e1000000 >> >> 04000000 >> >> 01000000 >> >> 01000000 >> >> 01000000 >> >> 63000000 >> >> e1000000 >> >> 04000000 >> >> 01000000 >> >> 01000000 >> >> 01000000 >> >> 02000000 >> >> >> >> Same for rationals. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Raul Miller >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Donna Y >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > An array can have one element but it is not a scalar number. >> >> > > If it is an array it has not only magnitude but also direction. >> >> > > >> >> > > A scalar number by definition scales - it has magnitude - it >> >> > > is not a vector or an array. It has rank 0. >> >> > >> >> > I did not follow all of what you wrote, but consider: >> >> > >> >> > scalar: 1j2 (has magnitude and direction, and is an array) >> >> > array: i.0 1 2 3 4 (has no magnitudes and no directions, >> >> but still is an >> >> > array) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
