I'm not a mac user, but I can also see this is an issue that had been raised repeatedly. I can upload your app/icon or script to http://www.jsoftware.com/download as a temporary solution until Eric release a new intel mac j602 installer.
Пнд, 06 Дек 2010, Ian Clark писал(а): > @Joey > > > don't worry about the PPC version (which will only run up to and including > > OS 10.5...) > > I fear that's the one we do have to worry about. A lot of people (my > daughter especially) are still running Macs purchased 2006 or earlier, > at which date Apple discontinued powerPC chips. Especially in > universities. These, at best, will be running 10.5 -- and will forever > be stuck at that level. > > See my last posting, to Bill. I'm proposing an easy general solution, > if Bill agrees. > > Ian > > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Joey K Tuttle <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ian, > > > > As I previously pointed out - there is a separate download for Intel and > > PPC versions of J for OS X - has anyone experimented with -d32 in 10.5 and > > earlier?? I haven't seen any indication of that and it might well work just > > fine - again, don't worry about the PPC version (which will only run up to > > and including OS 10.5...) > > > > - joey > > > > > > On Dec 5, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Ian Clark wrote: > > > >> @Bill, > >> > >> You're right. > >> > >> And I think we'll need a separate if...fi for 10.5, 10.6 and 10.7. > >> Naive, but just too bad. (Easy to debug though). > >> > >> Lion (10.7), just announced, will only run on Intel chips. So it > >> should specify -d32 without exception. > >> 10.8 and beyond: j602 can expected to be obsolete and unsupported. > >> > >> Snow Leopard (10.6), what I've got, will only run on Intel chips, so > >> too it should specify -d32 without exception. > >> > >> Leopard (10.5) is the mischief. It was a transitional product and it > >> supported everything. It should only specify -d32 for Intel chips. I'd > >> hazard a guess: call: uname -m --and look for the last 2 digits = 86. > >> > >> I can test the 10.6 section triggers for my machine. We'll need > >> volunteers to test a script on other Macs. > >> > >> I'll compose a test-script and publish it on this list, plus > >> instructions how to run it. > >> > >> But really it's the java version that matters. Can we cut the Gordian > >> knot? Run java without -d32, look at the exit code, and if it's bad, > >> run it again, this time WITH -d32. > >> > >> Yet another strategy, the one I'd recommend... > >> > >> A pair of alternative icons would save all this fuss. No tricky logic > >> to debug. No doubt about how java was actually called on a user's > >> machine. If one doesn't run, the other might... > >> ++ j602.app (...the existing one, no changes to be made) > >> ++ j60232.app (...a new one resembling it, which I shall build and > >> ship to Bill). > >> > >> Ian > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 1:15 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> May be a nested if statement to check both uname -m and sw_vers. > >>> > >>> Вск, 05 Дек 2010, Ian Clark писал(а): > >>>> Norman, Joey, > >>>> > >>>> This is basically what the MSTAT app does. > >>>> > >>>> Download Mstat 5.4 from: > >>>> http://www.mcardle.wisc.edu/mstat/download/download.html > >>>> > >>>> But I did a few experiments running Terminal and I've given myself > >>>> serious doubts as to whether that "if-fi" statement will behave itself > >>>> on all Macs. It works on my (modern) Mac, but all is not what it > >>>> seems. It may be working for the wrong reason. > >>>> > >>>> So, speaking for myself, I wouldn't (yet) recommend it as a universal > >>>> fix for the J602-for-Mac download. I'll need to do some more tests. > >>>> (But I defer to higher unix authorities). > >>>> > >>>> Bill and I will try to work something out. > >>>> > >>>> Ian > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Norman Drinkwater > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> On Intel OSX, the problem is that older versions are only 32-bit, while > >>>>> later ones have both 32- and 64-bit java. > >>>>> > >>>>> On an Intel Mac try this as the jwd script > >>>>> > >>>>> #!/bin/sh > >>>>> osver=`sw_vers -productVersion` > >>>>> jopt=-d32 > >>>>> if [ "$osver" \< "10.5" ] > >>>>> then > >>>>> jopt='' > >>>>> fi > >>>>> cd "`dirname "$0"`/.." > >>>>> java $jopt -Xss8000000 -Xdock:name=J -Xdock:icon=bin/icons/jred.icns > >>>>> -jar j.jar "$@" > >>>>> > >>>>> Note from the line starting with "java" down, all of the info should be > >>>>> on a single line. > >>>>> > >>>>> Norman > >>>>> > >>>>> On 12/5/2010 7:37 AM, Brian Schott wrote: > >>>>>> Ian et al, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I just checked, and your concern is valid about going back before > >>>>>> non-intel Macs. When I altered the j602/bin/jwd to include `-d32` the > >>>>>> launch of J602 failed. So I guess an if...fi is required. Darn. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Ian Clark<[email protected]> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Might the -j32 flag actually be disruptive if you go back before > >>>>>>> 64-bit java was released? (10.5 was it?) Or on non-Intel Macs? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ian > >>>>>> > >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >>>>> > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >>> > >>> -- > >>> regards, > >>> ==================================================== > >>> GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > >>> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- regards, ==================================================== GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
