On 11/06/2004 09:37 AM, Collins Richey wrote:
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 07:20:44 -0800, Net Llama! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I commend Zell Miller for his contributions to the campaign. He didn't
support GWB because he is a Republican, but because he sincerely
believes that the Democratic Party has abandoned the principles that
once made it a great party.

Ya know, Collins, I would have been truly awestruck if you didn't commend the Emporer^H^H^Zell Miller. That guy fell off the truck a long time ago. I could start espousing the principles of the Repbulican party while calling myself a Democrat for the same effect.


Lonni, you've missed the point. Zell espouses the principles of the
Democratic Pary as practiced by Jack Kennedy and Harry Truman. He's
not preaching to convert everyone to the Republican Party, but merely
bemoaning the fact that the Democratic Party has moved along to a
place he is not comfortable with. Maybe he fell off the truck, but he
firmly believes that the truck is headed in the wrong direction.
That's definitely not the same as saying that everyone should be on
the Republican bandwagon. Zell believed that John Kerry was the wrong
man, wrong time, wrong place as did may of us, but I don't hear him
signing up to be a Republican.

Of course not. He could do alot more damage as a disgruntled Democrat than good ole Republican. There was nothing in Miller's rantings that represented anything that Kennedy or Truman every believed in.


Beginning in the 2000 election and continuing much stronger in the
2004 election, the internet has altered the political spectrum in
favor of better and more instantaneous access to the news. Prior to
the appearance of the political blogs, Dan Rather would have been able
to sell his forged document to an unsuspecting public, and the
distorted view of the problem of missing explosives at the weapons
cache would have been taken at face value.

Ahh, that felt good. End of ramblings.

Glad you feel better. Karl Rove would be proud.



Maybe so. I'm not a Republican, but I find nothing wrong with a
campaign manager who has managed to help position his guy for a win. I
don't find fault with the Democratic campaign manager, either, only
with his candidate. I just can't swallow the concept that Karl Rove is
a creature of evil.

I never said he was a creature of evil, although you just did. ;)

All we hear about any more are the raving lunatics (IMO) like Michael
Moore who believe that we should turn our country over to an
organization like the UN and convert ourselves to a European style
socialist paradise. Where is the outcry from decent America loving
Democrats who know that this is hogwash? "I hate Republicans" is not
an adequate slogan for winning the hearts and minds of the middle
Americans I have referred to previously. As long as that is the
direction of the party, I have no real choice but to press the
Republican buttons when I go to the voting booth.

Believe it or not, there are and were other parties being represented in the election besides the republicans. Michael Moore is definitely a zealot, however I see nothing in his actions that suggest lunacy.


I could have had more respect for John Kerry if he had stood up for
his principles. A man of principle would have done one of two things:
apologize for his stand in years past or confirm his past choices. If

Right, just like Bush has admitted his mistakes?

I had heard something like I made a bad mistake when I turned my back
on my fellow soldiers and when I voted down every major military
support and weapons bill and I see now that we must have a strong

You've got a rather one sided view of history.

military in these dangerous times, I would have had more respect for
him. Or if he had said, I do not regret my choice to turn my back on
my fellow soldiers (stopping the Vietnam war was far too important)
and I do not believe that we need a strong military presence and I
believe that it is essential that we have a more socialist America, I
could respect (but not support) that position.

The much touted candidate for 2008, of course, is Hillary Clinton who
will be more of the same. The party hacks will love her, but I doubt
that she will sell any better than Gore or Kerry in middle America.

2008 is very long ways away on the political landscape. Check the news reports from 4 years ago and see how many predicted Kerry. None. The only way i'd vote for Hillary is if she was up against another mindless arrogant cowboy.



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