----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: general at lists.archserver.org
Date: 16.12.2009 16:06:17
Subject: Re: [ArchServer-General] [ ArchServer-General ] To Do List


> Well, AIF I don't think is needed. Memtest is nice but really only 
> useful for live cds, not very useful on a server. Nmap could just stay 
> in the repo and they can get it later because for basic site serving we 
> wouldn't use it. Parted is nice as part of the live CD but not necessary 
> since we do our disk management in the setup using cfdisk. Fuse is nice 
> but for a beta ISO not needed. dmraid i don't think would be needed.
> 
> I would say for a starter ISO we could get in just the basics with our 
> mods to config files and such so that it's AS ready off the cd. Then we 
> can work on making a more expanded one to include normal server utils 
> like samba, bind, httpd(default but not required) and the like.
> 

So, you are thinking along the same line like myself. I will setup a live-Cd, 
still by trying to use arch-iso.

R,

Markus
> Markus M. May wrote:
> > Hmm, 
> >
> > it is really not taking any orders from me as well :-)
> >
> > Whatsoever, I am still quite unsure, what packages we do need to execute a 
> > first ISO. From what I have gathered the following packages are required:
> >
> > 1 aif
> > 2 aufs2
> > 3 aufs2-util
> > 4 base
> > 5 bash
> > 6 coreutils
> > 7 cpio
> > 8 dhcpcd
> > 9 dmraid
> > 10 dnsutils
> > 11 dosfstools
> > 12 elinks
> > 13 file
> > 14 fuse
> > 15 gnu-netcat
> > 16 inetutils
> > 17 kernel26
> > 18 memtest86+
> > 19 nfs-utils
> > 20 nmap
> > 21 openssh
> > 22 parted
> > 23 vim
> >
> > We should at least provide most of these on our CD as well. Therefor I will 
> > start to build some packages of the above list, which do belong on the CD, 
> > or are needed for the ArchLinux ISO-Image creation (using Overlays):
> >
> > AIF (do we really need this?)
> > AUFS2 and AUFS2-Utils (these are needed for the CD)
> >
> > Is dmraid, dosfstools really needed? Probably this one could be shifted 
> > into the next release? Could we also move fuse, memtest86+, nmap and 
> > parted? I think vim would be a real good one to put into the distro as well.
> >
> > Have I forgotten anything, or have I misunderstood anything?
> >
> > What do you think, shadowbranch, since you seem to have made already your 
> > first experiences with archiso????!!!
> >
> > R,
> >
> > Markus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: dmoree at shadowbranch.com
> > To: general at lists.archserver.org
> > Date: 16.12.2009 15:13:50
> > Subject: Re: [ArchServer-General] [ ArchServer-General ][ 
> > ArchServer-General ] To Do List
> >
> >
> >?? 
> >> I was working on it but I always seem to have a problem if I use archiso 
> >> to do my bidding! Muhahahaha! Oh sorry, evil side came out.
> >>
> >> Markus M. May wrote:
> >>???? 
> >>>> 2009/12/15 Markus M. May :
> >>>>??????
> >>>>???????? 
> >>>>> The Todo list is quite a big thing. Especially the task concerning the 
> >>>>> Package Management. I am also very interested in this, and already 
> >>>>> know, that quite some people on AL are interested in something like 
> >>>>> this as well. Let me just suggest some additional requirements:
> >>>>>????????
> >>>>>?????????? 
> >>>> Yes, the APP is certainly the biggest task, probably followed not far
> >>>> behind by the Installation ISO :-/
> >>>>??????
> >>>>???????? 
> >>> Since I started already the creation of an ISO for a different project 
> >>> (ArchLinux Development Stack), I would like to stand up and build an 
> >>> initial ISO. 
> >>>
> >>> R,
> >>>
> >>> Markus
> >>>
> >>>????
> >>>?????? 
> >>>>> 1) no real db-dependencies, if at all possible, by using a common 
> >>>>> DB-Framework
> >>>>>????????
> >>>>>?????????? 
> >>>> Database agnostic is even better, as long as it does support
> >>>> PostgreSQL one way or another :)??The rest of the apps (flyspray,
> >>>> mediawiki etc) are all using PG for their database and I'd really hate
> >>>> to have to be running 2 DBMS packages on the server ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>>??????
> >>>>???????? 
> >>>>> 2) probably we could factor out the SCM (SVN, Git) stuff and put these 
> >>>>> into separate modules, so that the application is agnostic of the used 
> >>>>> SCM (this is probably a step 2 thing).
> >>>>>????????
> >>>>>?????????? 
> >>>> That sounds like it would be very complicated, but it would definitely
> >>>> help the AL guys use it as AURv2 so if Daniel, or someone else, can
> >>>> work out a way to make it work then even better again!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2009/12/16 Daniel Moree :
> >>>>??????
> >>>>???????? 
> >>>>> I'd be happy to take on the APP. I currently work for a college doing 
> >>>>> web
> >>>>> applications programming and database support, as well as a bunch of 
> >>>>> other
> >>>>> stuff. I currently have a CMS solution that is very portable and highly
> >>>>> configurable that could just about drop in on the server. The most I 
> >>>>> would
> >>>>> have to do is write a module for working with the git repos. I'll setup 
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> version on my site and start working on something to see how it goes. 
> >>>>> Should
> >>>>> have a beta in a week or two.
> >>>>>????????
> >>>>>?????????? 
> >>>> Sounds ace! :D Thanks for putting your hand up Daniel :)
> >>>>
> >>>>??????
> >>>>???????? 
> >>>>> BTW, my site is www.shadowbranch.com and I am also willing to mirror 
> >>>>> for AS
> >>>>> if needed. I have 100mb stream to the net so plenty of bandwidth for 
> >>>>> now.
> >>>>>????????
> >>>>>?????????? 
> >>>> Let me know the IP address that rsync connections will come from so I
> >>>> can whitelist it to let you pull from the main server. Also the
> >>>> server's physical location, and the URI(s) where the AS tree will be
> >>>> available :-)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2009/12/16 Markus M. May :
> >>>>??????
> >>>>???????? 
> >>>>> if you are going to integrate the git-repo as well, then there is no 
> >>>>> need for any theming there. probably we could then just use something 
> >>>>> like http://www.xiphux.com/programming/php/gitphp/ (GitPHP), so that 
> >>>>> the whole stuff is done using one application as a base?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What do you think?
> >>>>>????????
> >>>>>?????????? 
> >>>> I like not reinventing the wheel ;-)
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