At 07:34 AM 5/25/2007, Caitlin Bestler wrote:

Steve Wise Wrote:

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Devesh Sharma wrote:
> On 5/24/07, Gleb Natapov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>  Does local RDMA write completion guaranties that a data that was
>> RDMAed is
>> already accessible in a destination's host _memory_?
> Local RDMA write completion guarantees that the data you have RDMAed
> has been copied into the remote buffer, without any data corruption.
>>
For iWARP, the local write completion simply means you can reuse the
local buffer and the the transport will deliver it or kill the
connection.  The data _could_ be queued in the local rnic and anywhere
else in the tcp cloud.


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And The only real difference with InfiniBand is that the uncertainty
cloud is limited to the gap between the HCA and the application.
Protocol designers can debate the tradeoffs InfiniBand takes to
achieve that, but the import thing to Application Designers is
that "smaller" is not "zero".

Generally, once a Send has been posted that all other interactions
with the remote peer over the same connection can assume that the prior
actions have completed, but if your application needs an absolute
guarantee that something has happened (for checkpointing or other
purposes) then you really can only rely on a peer-to-peer message.

The peer-to-peer may be either a RDMA Read which is not visible to the application / ULP or may be an application / ULP interaction. As a general guideline, application developers should not assume anything about the end-to-end data integrity or delivery being guaranteed by the hardware and take appropriate steps to design their communication pattern to validate the data was correctly exchanged. This is not difficult and is often built into many ULP or applications already.

Mike





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