Yes, its for sure not comparable to Jira feature-wise.
But it may be just the 80% of features you usually use and just works.

I talked with peter about this the other day. Bottom-line is, Github is the
new OPS4J, from a philosophical point of view.
It enables individuals to start projects & enable simple contribution model.

So its maybe just natural to bring as much as possible to github & add (not
self hosted) services like mailinglist/discussion group, continuus
integration server and release pipeline to maven central.
This would simplify the infrastructure hassles while keeping the OPS4J name
and idea alive.

Technically we thought of:
- Github: Sourcecode Hosting & Issue Tracking. + Maybe use the Github Wiki
for raw project docs, too.
- Google Groups for Mailinglist & Discussion
- A simplified website (maybe using jekyll on Github, ?) for the public face
and first point of entry (www.ops4j.org). This would include maybe a roaster
of most stable/active projects & links to everything else).


whyt ?



On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Andreas Pieber <anpie...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Toni,
>
> I've evaluated the github issue tracker the day it was available and TBH
> I'm not unhappy with it. If we do not have to move issues between projects
> and reference them between projects (which we do not have to do) it works
> really well --> from my point of view +1 to the move
>
> Kind regards,
> Andreas
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Toni Menzel <t...@okidokiteam.com> wrote:
>
>> @Yes, we do evaluate using the github issue tracker instead of the
>> atlassian suite.
>> So, you may just file an issue on github.com/ops4j (and the project).
>>
>> Its not official, but if you cannot file an issue at all, its better to do
>> it on the inofficial tracker + maybe link to it here on the list.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Achim Nierbeck 
>> <bcanh...@googlemail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Edward,
>>>
>>> yes we do have an issue with our issue tracking system.
>>> So If you want to add new issues you have to inform the mailinglist right
>>> now. :(
>>>
>>> Sorry for the inconvenience.
>>>
>>> Regards, Achim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/5/1 Edward Ost <edward....@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> I went to log an error with the ops4j plugin in Eclipse with M2.  While
>>>> trying to register, I got an error message, listed below for reference.  
>>>> The
>>>> instructions asked me to file an issue at Atlassian, which I did.  Now when
>>>> I returned to try to register again, it says that there is a user with name
>>>> edwardost already.  I think that is probably me, which you could confirm by
>>>> checking the email account.  But there does not seem to be a way to ask for
>>>> a reminder to be sent to the email address, or another (automated) menas of
>>>> password reset.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Cause: *
>>>> org.codehaus.xfire.XFireRuntimeException: Could not invoke service..
>>>> Nested exception is org.codehaus.xfire.fault.XFireFault: Fault:
>>>> java.lang.NullPointerException
>>>>
>>>> *Stack Trace: **[hide]*
>>>>
>>>> org.codehaus.xfire.XFireRuntimeException: Could not invoke service.. 
>>>> Nested exception is org.codehaus.xfire.fault.XFireFault: Fault: 
>>>> java.lang.NullPointerException
>>>> org.codehaus.xfire.fault.XFireFault: Fault: java.lang.NullPointerException
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.codehaus.xfire.fault.Soap11FaultSerializer.readMessage(Soap11FaultSerializer.java:31)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.codehaus.xfire.fault.SoapFaultSerializer.readMessage(SoapFaultSerializer.java:28)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.codehaus.xfire.soap.handler.ReadHeadersHandler.checkForFault(ReadHeadersHandler.java:111)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.codehaus.xfire.soap.handler.ReadHeadersHandler.invoke(ReadHeadersHandler.java:67)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.codehaus.xfire.handler.HandlerPipeline.invoke(HandlerPipeline.java:131)
>>>>    at org.codehaus.xfire.client.Client.onReceive(Client.java:406)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.codehaus.xfire.transport.http.HttpChannel.sendViaClient(HttpChannel.java:139)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.codehaus.xfire.transport.http.HttpChannel.send(HttpChannel.java:48)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.codehaus.xfire.handler.OutMessageSender.invoke(OutMessageSender.java:26)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.codehaus.xfire.handler.HandlerPipeline.invoke(HandlerPipeline.java:131)
>>>>    at org.codehaus.xfire.client.Invocation.invoke(Invocation.java:79)
>>>>    at org.codehaus.xfire.client.Invocation.invoke(Invocation.java:114)
>>>>    at org.codehaus.xfire.client.Client.invoke(Client.java:336)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.codehaus.xfire.client.XFireProxy.handleRequest(XFireProxy.java:77)
>>>>    at org.codehaus.xfire.client.XFireProxy.invoke(XFireProxy.java:57)
>>>>    at $Proxy6.addPrincipal(Unknown Source)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.atlassian.crowd.integration.service.soap.client.SecurityServerClientImpl.addPrincipal(SecurityServerClientImpl.java:595)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.atlassian.crowd.integration.service.cache.CachingUserManager$Server.addUser(CachingUserManager.java:211)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.atlassian.crowd.integration.service.cache.CachingUserManager.addUser(CachingUserManager.java:67)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.atlassian.crowd.integration.osuser.CrowdCredentialsProvider.create(CrowdCredentialsProvider.java:128)
>>>>    at com.opensymphony.user.UserManager.createEntity(UserManager.java:373)
>>>>    at com.opensymphony.user.UserManager.createUser(UserManager.java:245)
>>>>    at com.atlassian.core.user.UserUtils.createUser(UserUtils.java:265)
>>>>    at com.atlassian.core.user.UserUtils.createUser(UserUtils.java:238)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.atlassian.jira.user.util.UserUtilImpl.createJiraUser(UserUtilImpl.java:293)
>>>>    at com.atlassian.jira.web.action.user.Signup.doExecute(Signup.java:87)
>>>>    at webwork.action.ActionSupport.execute(ActionSupport.java:153)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.atlassian.jira.action.JiraActionSupport.execute(JiraActionSupport.java:54)
>>>>    at 
>>>> webwork.dispatcher.GenericDispatcher.executeAction(GenericDispatcher.java:132)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.atlassian.jira.web.dispatcher.JiraServletDispatcher.service(JiraServletDispatcher.java:178)
>>>>    at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:803)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:269)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.atlassian.jira.web.filters.AccessLogFilter.doFilter(AccessLogFilter.java:73)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:215)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.opensymphony.module.sitemesh.filter.PageFilter.parsePage(PageFilter.java:119)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.opensymphony.module.sitemesh.filter.PageFilter.doFilter(PageFilter.java:55)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.atlassian.jira.web.filters.SitemeshExcludePathFilter.doFilter(SitemeshExcludePathFilter.java:38)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:215)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.atlassian.seraph.filter.SecurityFilter.doFilter(SecurityFilter.java:192)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:215)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.atlassian.seraph.filter.TrustedApplicationsFilter.doFilter(TrustedApplicationsFilter.java:120)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:215)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.atlassian.seraph.filter.BaseLoginFilter.doFilter(BaseLoginFilter.java:125)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:215)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.atlassian.util.profiling.filters.ProfilingFilter.doFilter(ProfilingFilter.java:132)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.atlassian.jira.web.filters.JIRAProfilingFilter.doFilter(JIRAProfilingFilter.java:16)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:215)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.atlassian.jira.web.filters.ActionCleanupDelayFilter.doFilter(ActionCleanupDelayFilter.java:43)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:215)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.atlassian.jira.web.filters.RequestCleanupFilter.doFilter(RequestCleanupFilter.java:50)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:215)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.atlassian.johnson.filters.AbstractJohnsonFilter.doFilter(AbstractJohnsonFilter.java:72)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:215)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.tuckey.web.filters.urlrewrite.UrlRewriteFilter.doFilter(UrlRewriteFilter.java:350)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:215)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.atlassian.gzipfilter.GzipFilter.doFilterInternal(GzipFilter.java:81)
>>>>    at com.atlassian.gzipfilter.GzipFilter.doFilter(GzipFilter.java:51)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:215)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.atlassian.core.filters.AbstractEncodingFilter.doFilter(AbstractEncodingFilter.java:33)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:215)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
>>>>    at 
>>>> com.atlassian.jira.appconsistency.db.DatabaseCompatibilityEnforcerFilter.doFilter(DatabaseCompatibilityEnforcerFilter.java:39)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:215)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:188)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:213)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:174)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:127)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:117)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java:108)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.valves.AccessLogValve.invoke(AccessLogValve.java:548)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:174)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java:874)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11BaseProtocol$Http11ConnectionHandler.processConnection(Http11BaseProtocol.java:665)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.tomcat.util.net.PoolTcpEndpoint.processSocket(PoolTcpEndpoint.java:528)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.tomcat.util.net.LeaderFollowerWorkerThread.runIt(LeaderFollowerWorkerThread.java:81)
>>>>    at 
>>>> org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.java:689)
>>>>    at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595)
>>>>
>>>> Referer URL: *http://issues.ops4j.org/secure/Signup!default.jspa*
>>>>
>>>> *Build Information: *
>>>> Uptime : N/A
>>>> Edition : Enterprise
>>>> Version : 3.13.2
>>>> Build Number : 335
>>>> Atlassian Partner : null
>>>> Installation Type : Standalone
>>>> Server ID : *Contact your Administrator to discover this property
>>>> value.*
>>>>
>>>> *Server Information: *
>>>> Application Server: Apache Tomcat/5.5.26
>>>> Servlet Version: 2.4
>>>>
>>>> *File Paths:*
>>>> *Contact your System Administrator to discover file path information.*
>>>>
>>>> *Memory Information:*
>>>> Total Memory: 246 MB
>>>> Free Memory: 111 MB
>>>> Used Memory: 135 MB
>>>> Total PermGen Memory: 176 MB
>>>> Free PermGen Memory: 91 MB
>>>> Used PermGen Memory: 84 MB
>>>>
>>>> *System Information:*
>>>> System Date : Sunday, 01 May 2011
>>>> System Time : 10:10:40
>>>> Current Working Directory : *Contact your System Administrator to
>>>> discover this property value.*
>>>> Java Version : 1.5.0_22
>>>> Java Vendor : Sun Microsystems Inc.
>>>> JVM Version : 1.0
>>>> JVM Vendor : Sun Microsystems Inc.
>>>> JVM Implementation Version : 1.5.0_22-b03
>>>> Java Runtime : Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition
>>>> Java VM : Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM
>>>> User Name : www-data
>>>> User Timezone : Europe/Berlin
>>>> User Locale : English (United States)
>>>> System Encoding : UTF-8
>>>> Operating System : Linux 2.6.26-2-686
>>>> OS Architecture : i386
>>>> Application Server Container :
>>>> Database type : postgres72
>>>> Database JNDI address : java:comp/env/jdbc/JiraDS
>>>> Database URL : Hidden
>>>> Database version : 8.3.12
>>>> Database driver : PostgreSQL Native Driver PostgreSQL 8.1 JDBC3 with SSL
>>>> (build 413)
>>>> External user management : ON
>>>> Crowd integration : ON
>>>> JVM Input Arguments : *Contact your System Administrator to discover
>>>> this property value.*
>>>>
>>>> *Language Info:*
>>>>   Installed languages: Chinese (China)
>>>> Chinese (Taiwan)
>>>> Czech (Czech Republic)
>>>> Danish (Denmark)
>>>> Dutch (Belgium)
>>>> English (UK)
>>>> French (France)
>>>> German (Germany)
>>>> German (Switzerland)
>>>> Hungarian (Hungary)
>>>> Italian (Italy)
>>>> Japanese (Japan)
>>>> Norwegian (Norway)
>>>> Polish (Poland)
>>>> Portuguese (Brazil)
>>>> Russian (Russia)
>>>> Slovak (Slovakia)
>>>> Spanish (Spain)
>>>> Turkish (Turkey)  Default language: English (UK)
>>>>
>>>> *Request Information:*
>>>> - Request URL: http://srv07.ops4j.org:8080/500page.jsp
>>>> - Scheme: http
>>>> - Server: srv07.ops4j.org
>>>> - Port: 8080
>>>> - URI: /500page.jsp
>>>> - Context Path:
>>>> - - Servlet Path: /500page.jsp
>>>> - - Path Info: null
>>>> - - Query String:
>>>>
>>>> *Request Attributes*
>>>> - javax.servlet.forward.request_uri : /secure/Signup.jspa
>>>> - javax.servlet.forward.context_path :
>>>> - javax.servlet.forward.servlet_path : /secure/Signup.jspa
>>>> - javax.servlet.forward.path_info : /500page.jsp
>>>> - javax.servlet.error.message :
>>>> - com.atlassian.johnson.filters.JohnsonFilter_already_filtered : true
>>>> - com.atlassian.gzipfilter.GzipFilter_already_filtered : true
>>>> - javax.servlet.error.servlet_name : action
>>>> - atlassian.core.seraph.original.url : /secure/Signup.jspa
>>>> - javax.servlet.error.exception : javax.servlet.ServletException: Could
>>>> not invoke service.. Nested exception is
>>>> org.codehaus.xfire.fault.XFireFault: Fault: java.lang.NullPointerException
>>>> - os_securityfilter_already_filtered : true
>>>> - com.atlassian.jira.web.filters.ActionCleanupDelayFilter : true
>>>> - javax.servlet.error.request_uri : /secure/Signup.jspa
>>>> - jira.webwork.generic.dispatcher :
>>>> webwork.dispatcher.GenericDispatcher@2cbd0b
>>>> - javax.servlet.error.status_code : 500
>>>> - com.atlassian.jira.web.filters.RequestCleanupFilter_already_filtered :
>>>> true
>>>> - __sitemesh__filterapplied : true
>>>> - jira.webwork.cleanup : false
>>>> - loginfilter.already.filtered : true
>>>> - webwork.result : Value stack =========== ===========
>>>>
>>>> *Request Logging*
>>>> *0* log statements generated by this request:
>>>>
>>>> Listeners
>>>>  - GreenHopper 
>>>> Listener(com.pyxis.greenhopper.jira.customfields.GreenHopperCTFIndexer)
>>>>  - Issue Cache 
>>>> Listener(com.atlassian.jira.event.listeners.cache.IssueCacheListener)
>>>>  - Issue Index 
>>>> Listener(com.atlassian.jira.event.listeners.search.IssueIndexListener)
>>>>  - Mail Listener (com.atlassian.jira.event.listeners.mail.MailListener)
>>>>
>>>>  - svn (org.ops4j.jira.SvnUpdateListener)
>>>>
>>>> Services
>>>>  - Import From Notify(com.atlassian.jira.service.services.file.FileService)
>>>>    - Delay: 1440 minutes
>>>>  - Mail Queue 
>>>> Service(com.atlassian.jira.service.services.mail.MailQueueService)
>>>>    - Delay: 1 minutes
>>>>  - Subversion Revision Indexing 
>>>> Service(com.atlassian.jira.plugin.ext.subversion.revisions.RevisionIndexService)
>>>>    - Delay: 60 minutes
>>>>
>>>> Plugins
>>>>  - Admin Menu Sections 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - Browse Project Operations Sections 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - Content Link Resolvers Plugin 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - Custom Field Types & Searchers 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - FishEye Plugin 2.2.2 - Plugin by Atlassian Software Systems
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - GreenHopper 3.3-jira313 - Plugin by Pyxis-Technologies inc.
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - Issue Operations Plugin 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - Issue Tab Panels Plugin 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - Issue Views Plugin 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - JIRA Bamboo Plugin 2.2 - Plugin by Atlassian Software Systems Pty
>>>> Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - JIRA Footer 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - Portlets Plugin 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - Preset Filters Sections 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - Project Panels Plugin 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - Project Role Actors Plugin 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - RPC JIRA Plugin 3.13.1 - Plugin by Atlassian Software Systems Pty
>>>> Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - Renderer Component Factories Plugin 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty
>>>> Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - Renderer Plugin 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - Reports Plugin 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - Top Navigation Bar 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - User Format 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - User Navigation Bar Sections 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - User Profile Links 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - View Project Operations Sections 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - Web Resources Plugin 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - Webwork Plugin 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - Whiteboard 1.5.0 - Plugin by null
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - Wiki Renderer Macros Plugin 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>  - Workflow Plugin 1.0 - Plugin by Atlassian Pty Ltd
>>>>    - Enabled
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> not...@lists.ops4j.org
>>>> http://lists.ops4j.org/mailman/listinfo/notify
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Achim Nierbeck*
>>>
>>>
>>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
>>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>  Committer
>>> & Project Lead
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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