Thats also my fear expressed with:
http://twitter.com/#!/tonit/status/66442033493053440

<http://twitter.com/#!/tonit/status/66442033493053440>The idea is to
leverage existing - cutting edge if yo will - tooling while maintaining the
public phase as a community effort.
Thats where the new www.ops4j.org would fit in.
It should be a clean entry that explains the gross idea (static pages, nice
project sheets etc. + dynamic content aggregated from feeds like github).
In the end it would feel like sacrifice self hosted, corporate looking infra
for:
- best services with least manpower/effort to maintain
- make contribution barrier-less (or at least really low) -> this is the
core idea of the original OPS4J.
Thats really different from other communities.
I think its worth to maintain that spirit - and not try to keep a huge
boilerplate of confluence+jira+wiki+svn+github+ci running just because
others do it.


On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Achim Nierbeck <bcanh...@googlemail.com>wrote:

> Hi Toni,
>
> thanks for taking your time to get this going.
> I think this is a proper plan to work with.
>
> I only have a "bad" feeling right now.
> It's the way the Issue Tracker of GitHub "feels" like. Somehow I fear
> we do loose
> the "professionalism" we had with Jira and  somehow I fear our
> "external presentation" as a
> basis for good professional OpenSource Projects is going to be damaged.
>
> So if there is some sort of other alternative I'd appreciate that.
>
> This is just my 2 cents here :-\
>
> regards, Achim
>
> 2011/5/6 Toni Menzel <t...@okidokiteam.com>:
> > in order to ease the transition to a more reliable infrastructure, we are
> > cleaning up the current infra that could be replaced quite soon by Github
> &
> > Google Code.
> > This is not the final "go" - more about putting things in line so we can
> DO
> > the switch when it comes to it.
> > Its also about cutting away old trash in the system.
> > Open Jira issues on issues.ops4j.org is one thing to clean up.
> > The first category of cleanup are issues that are open, in-progress or
> > reopened.
> > Here is a filter that highlights all 309 issues in
> > question:
> http://srv07.ops4j.org:8080/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?requestId=10111
> > I believe many of them are either
> > - to be deleted because the project has kind of deceased.
> > - or closed (if you want to keep it in the system).
> > The remaining ones should only on active projects. - Some of those are
> also
> > probably duplicates or already solved by superior versions (we are
> talking
> > of issues created in 2006+).
> > For project leads, it would be fine to skim through the issue list if
> time
> > at hand and trim the list of consolidate issues.
> > The next category is Resolved but not Closed issues.
> > Our rule (not sure if its a hard rule written somehwere) is to close
> issues
> > at the time the corresponding change is part of a shipped release.
> > I bet many of them fall into that category.
> > At the very end, we should end up with a much smaller list that we need
> to
> > digest and probably transfer to the new system (whatever it will be).
> > wdyt?
> > Toni
> >
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