I'm with Toni and you on this one. 4.2.0 as "general" version for all
pax-projects; single subprojects can take 4.3.0 but only if they really use
new features (although I'm not aware right now of any pax-project really
needing it).

Also +1 to the version matrix. In addition I think an upgrade to 4.3.0
should go at least with a new minor release (better with a new major) and
is something which might should be discussed first here on this list.

Therefore I think we should also revert all upgrades to 4.3.0 before the
next releases already done to various pax projects.

Kind regards,
Andreas

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 19:48, Toni Menzel <t...@okidokiteam.com> wrote:

> I usually had (in the recent year) 4.2.0 in mind. - some kind of implicit
> assumption that its what many OSGi related projects use. I think its even
> today the lowest common denominator across pax projects, so we should align
> them to that version.
>
> Once a single project needs to go with 4.3.0 it can do so (for example for
> using the Hook AP e.g.). But, again, 4.2.0 looks like a good agreement. The
> next "useful" level of - speaking of getting a larger user base - would be
> supporting OSGi Spec 3.x.. which i don't see happening in the tooling space.
>
> Toni
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Harald Wellmann <
> hwellmann...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Which OSGi versions should we support in Pax?
>>
>> Which OSGi version should we use to compile Pax projects?
>>
>> The reason I'm asking is: There have been a few commits introducing
>> org.osgi.core:4.3.0 here and there and a few comments not so happy about
>> that move.
>>
>> I tend to agree, but changing the POMs back and forth is not a good idea,
>> so I'd like to discuss the issue and hopefully reach an agreement before
>> the next release train.
>>
>> According to [1], only OSGI 4.x is supported.
>>
>> Pax Exam and Pax Swissbox Framework definitely require 4.2.0 or higher
>> because of the FrameworkFactory.
>>
>> The Pax Swissbox Parent POM has org.osgi.core:4.0.1 in the last release
>> and 4.2.0 in current snapshots (changed by myself in December) - if this is
>> not desirable, there's no problem reverting to 4.0.1 in the parent and
>> using 4.2.0 for pax-swissbox-framework only.
>>
>> Regarding OSGi 4.3.0, there are significant API changes, not only new
>> classes and methods but also changed signatures due to generic type
>> arguments. While this is backward compatible (i.e. OSGi 4.3.0 runs bundles
>> compiled with 4.2.0), I'm not so sure about the opposite direction, and
>> even if there are no runtime conflicts, you get lots of ugly compiler
>> warnings when compiling current Pax code with raw types against OSGi 4.3.0
>> with generics.
>>
>> So I think we should stick with (or revert to) 4.2.0 until further
>> notice, which does not rule out the possibility of individual subprojects
>> upgrading to 4.3.0 if they unavoidably require some of the new features
>> (e.g. weaving hooks).
>>
>> And we should clearly define which projects (if any) shall remain
>> compatible to 4.0.1 or 4.1.0 and put up a nice handy project/version matrix
>> in the Wiki.
>>
>> By the way, anybody voting for 4.1.0 support should be prepared to
>> contribute integration tests running on old framework versions :-P
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> [1] 
>> http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/**display/ops4j/Pax<http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/ops4j/Pax>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Harald
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