Hello Achim,

I can wait. Thanks! I hope it can get into Karaf 2.3.0 as well :).

thanks again,
Gareth

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Achim Nierbeck <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Gareth,
>
> great I already pulled another merge into the 2.1 line.
> I'd like to dig into the PAXWEB-382 issue a bit more.
> Would be great if that one could be solved for 2.1 also
>
> So if you could wait a bit till Monday I would really appreciate it.
> If you like you can ride that release train then.
>
> regards, Achim
>
> 2012/7/28 Gareth Collins <[email protected]>:
>> Hello Achim,
>>
>> Done.
>>
>> So what else would you like to get in for a 2.1.0 release? I am asking
>> because I would like to make an official release
>> with my changes :).
>>
>> thanks again,
>> Gareth
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:26 AM, Achim Nierbeck <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>
>>> yeah that would be great I'm kind of drowning in work right now :)
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot, Achim
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/7/26 Gareth Collins <[email protected]>:
>>>> Hello Achim,
>>>>
>>>> I could create the branch and pull my changes into master. Would you
>>>> like me to do that?
>>>>
>>>> Gareth
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:37 AM, Achim Nierbeck <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>>>
>>>>> thanx again for taking care of this :)
>>>>>
>>>>> looks good so far.
>>>>> I wanted to create a new branch for the 2.0.x line and after that the
>>>>> trunk will go for 2.1.0 but I didn't find the spare
>>>>> time yet. So a merge will take a bit :)
>>>>>
>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>
>>>>> 2012/7/25 Gareth Collins <[email protected]>:
>>>>>> Hi Achim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have added some test cases and added support for setting the Pax Web
>>>>>> configuration file connector names
>>>>>> (I added new comments to PAXWEB-396). If you could take another look
>>>>>> and let me know, it would be much
>>>>>> appreciated. Feel free to suggest new names for the test case 
>>>>>> classes...:)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Achim Nierbeck 
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks for the issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did take a look the code looks good so far.
>>>>>>> How did you test it till now? Probably an enhanced
>>>>>>> war that you use. I'd suggest you create a sample
>>>>>>> war in the samples and use it in the itests.
>>>>>>> This way we have a sample on how to use the
>>>>>>> new features and also a nice test for automatic testing
>>>>>>> and debugging. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 19.07.2012 20:50, schrieb Gareth Collins:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Achim,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have added the issue here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://team.ops4j.org/browse/PAXWEB-396
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have also checked in an initial implementation into my fork on
>>>>>>>> github (details in the issue comments).
>>>>>>>> These changes worked for my me (the implementation is
>>>>>>>> straight-forward). If you get a change to take a look,
>>>>>>>>   it would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Achim Nierbeck 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> could you please open a "new feature" issue for this and add some
>>>>>>>>> comments on what
>>>>>>>>> we agreed on in Jira. This way it's easier for tracking and to place
>>>>>>>>> the version this is
>>>>>>>>> supposed to be released ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks, Achim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2012/7/16 Achim Nierbeck <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> comments inline:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2012/7/16 Gareth Collins <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Achim,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> One more question...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I see that the default connectors setup using the Pax Web
>>>>>>>>>>> configuration file don't appear to have
>>>>>>>>>>> names. Would you mind if I added two new configuration items for 
>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>> default connectors
>>>>>>>>>>> (perhaps with default names "default" and "secureDefault"?)?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sure go ahead, haven't had the need for names yet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, feel free to tell me this is too much detail for the mailing
>>>>>>>>>>> list. If yes, I will start emailing
>>>>>>>>>>> you directly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Unless no one complains and I'm sure all others are
>>>>>>>>>> OK with it keep asking :)
>>>>>>>>>> This is still an OpenSource project so this way it's also
>>>>>>>>>> a nice way of documenting the reasons behind decisions.
>>>>>>>>>> And one might always come around with a better suited
>>>>>>>>>> idea this way :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No Problem, I'm glad that you stepped up for it :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards, Achim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Achim Nierbeck
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> my comments inline.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/7/13 Gareth Collins <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Achim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A further question while I have it on my mind:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) If I wanted to verify the host http header is valid (i.e.to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> protect against a user faking the host), before routing a request 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular
>>>>>>>>>>>>> web app, would that be something that could be done in Pax 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web...or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could that only be done in Jetty?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if this could be done with jetty or is already a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> "valid"
>>>>>>>>>>>> method
>>>>>>>>>>>> there. So Pax web might be a good place. But beware this test might
>>>>>>>>>>>> stale the startup of Pax Web when it tries to look for a valid
>>>>>>>>>>>> address.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) Would it be a foolish idea to be able to choose connectors 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> via a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Manifest Header (potentially called "Web-Connectors", again with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> default in the Pax Web Configuration)? Something like what is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shown
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alternative" here (I am assuming that the preferred multiple 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jetty
>>>>>>>>>>>>> servers implementation would be a substantial amount of work):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well what already can be done is the posibility to configure
>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple Jetty Connectors through the jetty.xml.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So I think adding a special Manifest Entry for the webapp might be 
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> nice addon.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that this might be even a nice idea to make this
>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration somehow available for servlets beeing registered 
>>>>>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>>> the http service or through the whiteboard extender.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JETTY/How+to+serve+webbapp+A+from+portA+and+webapp+B+from+portB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps this is the better internal/external security option?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Gareth Collins
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Achim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe I am already a member of ops4j team (garethcollins) on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> github. I have forked pax-web to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start work on this. Once I am done, if you could verify/provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback on my change it would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, this has proven to be a quite practial thing in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> past :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are happy that I have not done anything completely foolish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have verified the change works then I will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pull and approve my pull.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A couple of questions I am a little unsure of yet:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) Would this be a reasonable prioritization for setting virtual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hosts?:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      (a) If virtual hosts is set in jetty-web.xml, use that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      (b) Else if set in Web-VirtualHosts header, use that value.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      (c) Else default to the configured value. If that configured
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is null, virtual hosts should not be set.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds fair enough since a jetty-web.xml might be a valid
>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration for a "standalon" war also.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) If Pax Web configuration is changed via configuration admin,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pax Web restart...or does it try to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only change the delta somehow (handling deltas may potentially 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> task harder)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Since it's a managed Service the default behaviour of OSGi is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>>>>>>> care of this.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So the service in question is stoped and restarted. In this case 
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't need
>>>>>>>>>>>> think about a delta behaviour :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually I have to thank you, cause this is the work the community
>>>>>>>>>>>> needs to be a successfull
>>>>>>>>>>>> community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, Achim
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 4:29 AM, Achim Nierbeck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for sharing your thoughts, my comments inline :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/7/11 Gareth Collins <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Achim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a proposal (which solves my problem). Would this be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> foolish?:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Proposals are never foolish, it's always a good starting point 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good discussion :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) Add a new Manifest Header Web-VirtualHosts which lists the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> virtual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hosts for the webapp.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Their are at least two advantages of setting the virtual hosts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this way:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      (a) it is webapp container type independent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      (b) the header can be set as part of the war url (I have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arbitrary header names this way in the past).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A new Manifest Header actually could be really useful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 for this Idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) Add a new configuration item for Pax Web, which, if not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> null
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> describes a default set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Virtual Hosts (i.e. to allow restrict by default for webapps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as the activemq or karaf console).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 for the configuration item.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The default should be null so I'm quite fine with this idea  :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a look at the Pax Web code. It doesn't appear that it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that hard to implement (I believe I can see how to pass the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via the WebApp through to the Jetty ContextHandler). If I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implemented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such a feature would you merge it in?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First of all thank you for willing to contribute,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second we at ops4j rather give you direct access then applying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patches :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So If you give me your Github Account name I'll add you to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committers list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want me to review this before "merge" to trunk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can either start a branch in the ops4j repo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or start your own branch in your own repository and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happily review it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It turned out in the past that this was a quite good way of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have to thank you for committing :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Achim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Achim Nierbeck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sorry it took me a bit longer :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes you need to make sure the jetty-web.xml file is contained
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inside
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the war/wab next to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the std. web.xml file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Concerning the jetty.xml file you might be able to "alter"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certain behaviour for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allready deployed applications, though I have to admitt 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this probably won't work due to the way the war/wabs are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deployed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/7/9 Gareth Collins <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Achim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for the response. I did look at the Jetty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eclipse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki and it wasn't obvious
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to me how I could do what I think I need via jetty.xml. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep researching.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Say I wanted to add this jetty-web.xml file to the war/wab on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (because I don't know until install
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what the virtual hosts will be). Would this be something that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logically would be part of the war
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> url handler...or would this need to be something different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (especially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since it would be jetty specific - e.g.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a "jvh - Jetty Virtual Host" url handler?)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just trying to understand how this potentially could be done 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assuming that if I wanted this I would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to implement it).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Achim Nierbeck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comments inline
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/7/6 Gareth Collins <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Achim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just letting you know I have migrated all my webapps over 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the pax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web trunk (i.e. which includes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fix) successfully. It is working great now. Thankyou!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great to hear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always welcome :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next thing I wanted to try out was the new Virtual 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hosts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked at the pax web examples
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the jetty documentation. For pax web, it appears like 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do this is via a file (jetty-web.xml) in the war.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Is this correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed as pax-web does only "configure" jetty it's the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jetty-web.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for configuring.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I ask because I was hoping to restrict access to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> third-party
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (such as the activemq web war or the karaf console)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to specific virtual hosts (i.e. I don't want these on an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> external
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing port/IP). Is that something I can do without editing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these third-party wars and adding the jetty-web.xml file 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (if I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to, I have to - just seeing if I am missing something 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok, to restrict to specific virtual hosts is a kind of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tricky
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please follow the instructions in [1].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you will have a hard time configuring this to different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ports.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I haven't tried yet but might be a possible solution to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alter certain wars is to try to configure this via the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jetty.xml.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Jetty/Howto/Configure_Virtual_Hosts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Gareth Collins
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks very much!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Achim Nierbeck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just took care of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to release a new version of Pax web ASAP, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beginning of next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 19.06.2012 19:18, schrieb Gareth Collins:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Achim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Added:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://team.ops4j.org/browse/PAXWEB-384
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can have a go at fixing it next week (as it is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somewhat a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> showstopper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for me)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I get back home.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Achim Nierbeck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could you open an issue for this, I think limiting 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just 2 *.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files is probably wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is probably more a thinking of the old times where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the web.xml was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be a single file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opening this to include a jetty-web.xml is probably the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause for this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, Achim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 16.06.2012 05:08, schrieb Gareth Collins:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I see that some new software has been updated 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (such as Pax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web 2.0.0 - thankyou!) I decided to go back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and try to update my OSGi dependencies and streamline 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (which is why I was interested in removing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the start ordering dependency in pax confman).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway one of the first things I am trying to do in my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment is to get the updated 5.6.0 activemq web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to play nicely with the updated Pax Web. I am getting 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pax Web and I am not sure what it means (this is with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equinox 3.6.2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the bndtools launcher). Is this suggesting there 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong with the activemq web console war or is this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something else? There are seven XML files in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> activemq
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WEB-INF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directory:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20:50:23,521 | DEBUG | Gogo shell |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..swissbox.extender.BundleWatcher[216] | []:[] | Found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [bundleentry://11.fwk2060982148/WEB-INF/web.xml,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundleentry://11.fwk2060982148/WEB-INF/webconsole-default.xml,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundleentry://11.fwk2060982148/WEB-INF/webconsole-embedded.xml,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundleentry://11.fwk2060982148/WEB-INF/webconsole-invm.xml,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundleentry://11.fwk2060982148/WEB-INF/webconsole-jndi.xml,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundleentry://11.fwk2060982148/WEB-INF/webconsole-properties.xml,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundleentry://11.fwk2060982148/WEB-INF/webconsole-query.xml]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20:50:23,527 | INFO  | Executor: 1 |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..war.internal.WebXmlObserver[117] | []:[] | Using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [activemqweb] as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web application context name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20:50:23,527 | DEBUG | Framework Event Dispatcher |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..apache.activemq.activemq-web-console[?] | []:[] |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BundleEvent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STARTED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20:50:23,527 | ERROR | Executor: 1 |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..war.internal.WebXmlObserver[124] | []:[] | Number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xml's was not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lesser than 3. Was: 7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ops4j.lang.PreConditionException: Number of xml's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not lesser
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 3. Was: 7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ops4j.lang.PreConditionException.validateLesserThan(PreConditionException.java:155)[33:org.ops4j.pax.web.pax-web-extender-war:2.0.0]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ops4j.pax.web.extender.war.internal.WebXmlObserver.addingEntries(WebXmlObserver.java:121)[33:org.ops4j.pax.web.pax-web-extender-war:2.0.0]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ops4j.pax.swissbox.extender.BundleWatcher$3.run(BundleWatcher.java:224)[33:org.ops4j.pax.web.pax-web-extender-war:2.0.0]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:441)[:1.6.0_31]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:303)[:1.6.0_31]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:138)[:1.6.0_31]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.access$301(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:98)[:1.6.0_31]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.run(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:206)[:1.6.0_31]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.runTask(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:886)[:1.6.0_31]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:908)[:1.6.0_31]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:680)[:1.6.0_31]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20:50:23,528 | DEBUG | Executor: 1 |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..war.internal.WebEventDispatcher[130] | []:[] | 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sending
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web event
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WebEvent [replay=false, type=5,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundle=org.apache.activemq.activemq-web-console_5.6.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [11],
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extenderBundle=org.ops4j.pax.web.pax-web-extender-war_2.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  [33],
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause=org.ops4j.lang.PreConditionException: Number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xml's was not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lesser than 3. Was: 7, timestamp=1339807823528,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contextPath=/activemqweb, collisionIds=null,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> httpService=null,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> httpContext=null] for bundle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.activemq.activemq-web-console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20:50:23,531 | DEBUG | WebListenerExecutor: 2 |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..pax.web.pax-web-extender-war[?] | []:[] |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org/osgi/service/web/FAILED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If anyone could indicate what this error may mean (is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there really a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> max xml file limit in this directory?), it would be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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