Tbh I don't have many requirements at any uml tool, except that it's free and platform independent. BUT, Tbh I'll still prefer Haralds approach with (drawing per Hand and taking a photo)
Kind regards, Andreas On Aug 7, 2012 8:51 PM, "Oliver Lietz" <i...@oliverlietz.de> wrote: > > Am Friday, 3. August 2012 schrieb Achim Nierbeck: > > Hi, > > hello all, > > > comments inline :) > > > > regards, Achim > > > > 2012/8/3 Harald Wellmann <hwellmann...@gmail.com>: > > > UML diagrams certainly would be nice, but I'm a bit wary about > > > creating yet another tool dependency. > > > > > > I gather that all the tools you mentioned are commercial. Even if we > > > got a free license for the UML tool, there would still be the issue of > > > integrating the tool into JIRA and/or Confluence. > > > > > > OPS4J is running on a SaaS program from Atlassian called JIRA Studio > > > which is slowly degrading to a degree that I've started thinking about > > > alternatives. (Keywords: Github links broken, no upgrade path from > > > JIRA Studio to JIRA OnDemand without breaking URLs, OnDemand with > > > Confluence 5 - the world's only Wiki without Wiki markup, and no > > > control over the plugins you install in your instance). > > > > good point, besides even if we get a free oss license would it still > > be integrative into Confluence / Jira > > > > > So it might in fact be better to work with an offline UML tool, commit > > > the diagram sources to Github and simply upload images to Confluence > > > or any other documentation system. > > > > probably a better alternative ... > > have a look at > > * PlantUML http://plantuml.sourceforge.net/ > * UMLet http://www.umlet.com/ > * Diagrams feature of IntelliJ IDEA > http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/uml_designer.html > > regards, > O. > > > > Actually, I think drawing a diagram on a whiteboard and taking a photo > > > is usually the most efficient way of creating a UML diagram. At least > > > compared to the UML tools I've worked with in the past which are > > > terribly unintuitive and enormous time eaters (Together, Enterprise > > > Architect, Magic Draw, Visual Paradigm). > > > > HA, you speak directly out of my sole, though I have to admit I don't > > have a whitebaord at home to take pictures from ;) > > > > > Best regards, > > > Harald > > > > > > 2012/8/3 Björn Pollex <bjoern.pol...@googlemail.com>: > > >> In the spirit of collaboration, it would be > > >> extremely useful to have a Web-based UML-tool embedded in the Jira and > > >> > > >> Confluence. There are several that have this ability: > > >> * http://creately.com/ > > >> * http://www.gliffy.com/ > > >> * http://yuml.me/ > > >> * https://www.lucidchart.com/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > general mailing list > general@lists.ops4j.org > http://lists.ops4j.org/mailman/listinfo/general On Aug 7, 2012 8:51 PM, "Oliver Lietz" <i...@oliverlietz.de> wrote: > Am Friday, 3. August 2012 schrieb Achim Nierbeck: > > Hi, > > hello all, > > > comments inline :) > > > > regards, Achim > > > > 2012/8/3 Harald Wellmann <hwellmann...@gmail.com>: > > > UML diagrams certainly would be nice, but I'm a bit wary about > > > creating yet another tool dependency. > > > > > > I gather that all the tools you mentioned are commercial. Even if we > > > got a free license for the UML tool, there would still be the issue of > > > integrating the tool into JIRA and/or Confluence. > > > > > > OPS4J is running on a SaaS program from Atlassian called JIRA Studio > > > which is slowly degrading to a degree that I've started thinking about > > > alternatives. (Keywords: Github links broken, no upgrade path from > > > JIRA Studio to JIRA OnDemand without breaking URLs, OnDemand with > > > Confluence 5 - the world's only Wiki without Wiki markup, and no > > > control over the plugins you install in your instance). > > > > good point, besides even if we get a free oss license would it still > > be integrative into Confluence / Jira > > > > > So it might in fact be better to work with an offline UML tool, commit > > > the diagram sources to Github and simply upload images to Confluence > > > or any other documentation system. > > > > probably a better alternative ... > > have a look at > > * PlantUML http://plantuml.sourceforge.net/ > * UMLet http://www.umlet.com/ > * Diagrams feature of IntelliJ IDEA > http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/uml_designer.html > > regards, > O. > > > > Actually, I think drawing a diagram on a whiteboard and taking a photo > > > is usually the most efficient way of creating a UML diagram. At least > > > compared to the UML tools I've worked with in the past which are > > > terribly unintuitive and enormous time eaters (Together, Enterprise > > > Architect, Magic Draw, Visual Paradigm). > > > > HA, you speak directly out of my sole, though I have to admit I don't > > have a whitebaord at home to take pictures from ;) > > > > > Best regards, > > > Harald > > > > > > 2012/8/3 Björn Pollex <bjoern.pol...@googlemail.com>: > > >> In the spirit of collaboration, it would be > > >> extremely useful to have a Web-based UML-tool embedded in the Jira and > > >> > > >> Confluence. There are several that have this ability: > > >> * http://creately.com/ > > >> * http://www.gliffy.com/ > > >> * http://yuml.me/ > > >> * https://www.lucidchart.com/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > general mailing list > general@lists.ops4j.org > http://lists.ops4j.org/mailman/listinfo/general >
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