Its been 3 years and still we don't have a real Tizen Smartphone for
developers to use as a daily device, to "scratch their own itch", for
the numerous reasons that other companies provide their developers with
real devices that have cellular connectivity.
We can look at other devices as tablets, or development boards, but
please lets not lose sight of how massively important a smartphone is. I
would really appreciate if you guys could fill in this simple web form
at:
http://www.tizenexperts.com/2014/08/tizen-developer-feedback-form/
It would really help me to fully understand what the Tizen developer
community like about Tizen, what they want from it, and see if we can
target some Tizen developer smartphone hardware.
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On 21 Aug 2014, at 12:30, Olivier Nyssen wrote:
The Gigabyte Brix is probably the best device for Tizen Common atm:
http://techreport.com/news/26484/bay-trail-brix-has-dual-cores-no-fans
But we need a UI, guys !
Regards,
Olivier
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Leon Anavi <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2014-08-20 10:55, Olivier Nyssen wrote:
Thanks Leon, very interesting indeed.
Could you provide some info about the connectivity of these tablets
with Tizen: wifi, bluetooth, etc
The connectivity depends on the hardware capabilities of the tablet
as
well as the drivers for it.
Right now a Tizen:Common image can run on A20-OLinuXino-MICRO with
enabled
network over a LAN cabel. You can remotely log into the development
board
over SSH, UART or even SDB through TCP/IP. I have a couple of wifi
usb
dongles but at the moment it is not among my priorities to try them
out
because the issues that I described in my previous message are more
important.
Best regards,
Leon
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Leon Anavi <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi All,
I do not think that there a need for any company participating in
the Tizen Association to provide free Tizen tablets to developers
right now. There a lot of existing tablets on the market which are
compatible with Tizen.
I have been experimenting with the open-source hardware development
boards of Olimex with Allwinner SoC and recently I bought a cheap
tablet with Allwinner A20 dual-core ARM CPU and Mali 400 GPU. I was
able to boot Tizen:Common image on it. The touchscreen was not
working but it is a proof of the concept for a low budget Tizen
tablet.
There are millions of tablets with Allwinner SoC on the market. You
can buy such tablet for less than $100. These tablets are shipped
with Android but Tizen can be booted from microSD card without
affecting the original Android image so as a result you will get a
dual-boot tablet.
I totally agree with Thiago that a tablet with Tizen:Common will
not be attractive for end consumers. In the same time such a tablet
can be still useful in certain cases:
* Developers will be interested in having a real Tizen device for
Tizen application development and debugging.
* Universities can work with the device in course related to
operating systems. I already had a contact with a couple of
universities interested in Tizen-sunxi because of this.
* Embedded developers and freelancers might be interested in a
working cheap device with screen and a decent case that they can
easily integrate in small projects for home automation or other IoT
fields. The popular existing Android and Debian images for Sunxi
devices are not that good for this and Tizen:Common can fit the
gap.
As a community we are not that far from offering Tizen:Common
images for Sunxi devices (aka devices with Allwinner SoC). There
are
3 key issues that we should solve:
1. A Linux-sunxi kernel (forked from the Linux kernel) 3.10 or
newer to support the smack requirements in Tizen:Common.
2. A working Mali driver of Tizen and Suxni devices.
3. Support of Crosswalk (right now it is not working because of the
issue with Mali drivers)
If these three issues are solved it should be possible to boot
Tizen:Common on OLinuXino, CubieBoard, Banana Pi and to deploy
Tizen
web applications on them directly from Tizen IDE and/or SDB.
Thanks,
Leon
On 2014-08-20 09:22, Thiago Macieira wrote:
On Tuesday 19 August 2014 21:50:09 Thiago Macieira wrote:
On Wednesday 20 August 2014 03:36:55 Olivier Nyssen wrote:
Thanks for the replies, guys.
A wifi tablet has many advantages imo: it's a very simple device,
it can
be
made rapidly and it doesn't interfere with existing marketing
programs.
This device would be a real "community" device, 100% open and
experimental.
Carsten: couldn't we use an Enlightenment UI on a Tizen tablet ?
Who's going to pay for that device?
Let me make the question clear: why would one of the companies
involved pay
for such a device?
Companies aren't involved out of the goodness of their hearts. They
have a
business objective behind the actions they do. So can you give me a
business
reason why one of the involved companies would fund a Tizen tablet?
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