It is very probable that those with "position of influence within the project" are not on the mailing list.
On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 04:43:15 -0700 Bob Summerwill <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for the follow-up, Mats. > > I was expecting a public response. Normally when you say "this > project is broken", I would expect some kind of "no it isn't" > response from the project leads, or at least "yes, we are aware there > are problems, and here's what we are doing to mitigate it". To get > nothing back is very disappointing. It gives the impression that > nobody in a position of influence within the project really cares > whether Tizen fails or succeeds. That, or they are gagged (which is > more likely). Not so great for an open source project in either > case. > > While it is great to see your response, those impressions remain with > me. > > Thanks for the additional information around the LinuxCon structure > and IoT consortium. > > I dug up this amusing tweet on the topic :-) > > https://twitter.com/TomRaftery/status/486797277181538304 > > Glad to hear that you will be presenting about Tizen in the future. > Best of luck with that. > > > Cheers, > Bob > > > > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Mats Wichmann <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > On 08/22/14 11:00, Bob Summerwill wrote: > > > > > > The fact that there has been NO REPLY whatsoever to this mail a > > > week later speaks volumes about the state of the Tizen Project. > > > > > > I've been watching various recorded presentations from LinuxCon > > > in the last couple of days. LinuxCon is organized by the Linux > > > Foundation, but I've seen no mention whatsoever of Tizen at the > > > conference. > > ... > > > Please could somebody in a position of influence within the Tizen > > > Project make at least some response? > > > > Position of Influence != me. This is just me as an individual. > > Don't necessarily expect to hear from such a person here (at least > > not at the level of influence you seem to be after). > > > > Bob, I have to say that your original post didn't really read like > > it was fishing for a response. My own personal reaction is not one > > of major disagreement with your positions. There's a lot to be > > fixed, and the spate of governance and other activities ramping up > > for Tizen 3.0 don't seem to have had a lot of influence on the kind > > of things you were complaining about (not yet, at least). It's > > frustrating. I'll observe that the Tizen platform development > > community seems to be pretty healthy and humming along nicely in > > the absence of very public roadmaps, released devices, and such > > like. Like you, I'd personally worry about building a third-party > > business plan with things looking this unpredictable. > > > > on to... > > > > LinuxCon in general is running colocated mini-confs for Tizen and a > > number of other projects. If a talk proposal that happens to focus > > on Tizen gets accepted for one of the main LinuxCon tracks, so be > > it, but at a LinuxCon/CloudOpen Tizen would not be expected to be a > > main focus area. You'll see that from the call for proposals - the > > focus is more general that such a specific project as Tizen. So > > you'll probably see Tizen activties only at the miniconf, which may > > or may not even have an internet presence. I make no comment on > > that setup, just reporting that it's the way it is. [Information > > Note: I'll be doing a Tizen presentation at the LinuxCon Europe > > miniconf in October, so I know there will be some presence there] > > > > and... > > > > Some IoT things look like they may happen in the context of the Open > > Interconnect Consortium (openinterconnect.org), which has key Tizen > > participants as founding members. I haven't heard a lot of Tizen > > wording around the founding of that group, but I'm assuming that > > there will be synergy here (again, just personal opinions). > > > > cheers, > > > > -- mats > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.tizen.org/listinfo/general > > > > > _______________________________________________ General mailing list [email protected] https://lists.tizen.org/listinfo/general
