Hi Scott,

Thanks for the quick reply & good advise! Very nice to read such a good and extensive explanation :-)

Stupid me! I completely overlooked the download. I assumed it was a download for kickstarting JXTA(!) As a stupid silly foreigner I probably misinterpreted the line, assuming it was targeted at Javaws, instead of Chainsaw... *blush* *grin*

Btw, got a good reply from a german guy as well, he recommended creating a hyperlink to the .jnpl file in the cache and starting that with c:\windows\system32\javaws. That's how he did it (I checked it, it works), but I guess your advise is even much more in place.

I assume I will be looking into Chainsaw a lot for the time being, so if I have suggestions or can help improve it, I will definately let you know.

For now: maybe others finding out the existence of v2 would like to know the info described by you in this email, so maybe a small update of the Chainsaw page would help a lot and keep away more questions like mine. Up to you (or any other maintainer) of course. Hope it will release soon, it looks very useful and promising.

Thanks for everything and keep up the good work Scott,

Regards,

Hans Kool



Scott Deboy schreef:

1. On the Chainsaw page you linked to, right below the 'Launch' web
start link, there is a 'download' link that provides the jars.

2. You can specify the location of a config file that should be loaded
whenever Chainsaw starts from the view-show application wide preferences
window - place the URL to your config file in the 'automatic
configuration URL' field at the bottom of the preferences window

2. You could use the 'no receivers defined' popup that comes up when
Chainsaw doesn't have a configuration, select 'browse for a
configuration', select it, and then check the 'don't show me this again'
box.

3. As of log4j 1.3, Chainsaw is no longer included in the core jar -
it's available as a separate download.  It's also moved to its own cvs
repository (logging-chainsaw) - see
http://logging.apache.org/site/cvs-repositories.html

3. Chainsaw v2 has a dependency on log4j 1.3 apis, so we will maintain
compatibility with log4j 1.3 forward.  There is a plan to improve
backward compatibility with log4j 1.2.x before the official release of
log4j 1.3 and Chainsaw V2 (currently Chainsaw V2 can receive logging
events from a log4j 1.2.x socketappender, but only if the events don't
contain location info or MDC).

3. There used to be a link to Chainsaw's page off of log4j's page, but
it disappeared a while back.  I've made a change to fix that but I
haven't updated the site yet.  Chainsaw hasn't disappeared.  Yes, we
started writing Chainsaw v2 over two years ago, and yes, we still
haven't had an officiall release.

4. If you have any other suggestions or comments, please let us know (we
would love the feedback).  If you feel like pitching in and helping,
even better.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Hans Kool [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 2:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Chainsaw V2

Hi all,

I caught an eye on Chainsaw v2
(http://logging.apache.org/log4j/docs/chainsaw.html) and have three
suggestions/questions:

1. download

Nice webstart download, but it would be good to mention how to start
Chansaw 2 (manually) again later. Can't find where the jar is located...

Where is it?

2. configuration

It would be a good thing to mention if/where to modify the log4j
configuration to use Chainsaw, bot for log4j.properties and log4j.xml

3. status

Little info is given about the Chainsaw status. I noticed it is not
(yet) in log4j. Current log4j contains the old version. When is it
expected? What is the status?


I hope these suggestions will be followed up soon and.. I hope to find
out about the answers as well, because I can't wait to start using this
fancy looking tool! :-) If anyone can answer me about these problems:
please ;-)

Keep up the good work,

Hans Kool






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