I absolutely agree that we should do something like this. Now, for
example - as you mentioned - Cocoon and J2 have both an autodeploy
feature. Now, actually I grapped the code from J2, removed everything J2
specific, improved it... :) ...and then added it to Cocoon. There are
only small differences in the end that could be abstracted.
And i think there are other areas where such a synergy would make sense.
Another one could be some kind of ajax support for portlets (don't know
what exactly this could be, but I think this sounds cool, or?)

Personally, I see no problem doing this in subprojects of Pluto, but I
would be fine with a commons project as well.

Carsten

David H. DeWolf wrote:
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> We had some great discussions tonight at ApacheCon concerning gaining
> momentum and synergy between the portals (and related) projects. 
> Specifically, we addressed the need to determine where the line is
> between pluto and enterprise portal implementations (specifically,
> jetspeed and cocoon) .
> 
> There seems to be a need for a "lightweight" portal implementation
> which provides standard aggregation services, but does not include all
> of the bells and whistles (value added services such as cms, sso, etc.
> . .). Pluto has been moving towards this point, but it isn't
> necessarily the place for this (the portlet container should be the
> primary need).  Additionally, other common functions (i.e. autodeploy
> - which both jetspeed and cocoon have implemented) may be beyond the
> scope of pluto, but do not have a common home - thus duplicating work.
> 
> I'd like to open the discussion of a new portals project.  This
> project would be a very lightweight portal implementation which
> provides more than the testbed which pluto provides (in fact, pluto
> would probably be greatly trimmed down or refactored out into this
> project) but no more than the core aggregation services (portlet
> registry, page management, deployment).  The hope would be for portals
> such as jetspeed and cocoon to build on top of these core services. 
> Additionally, this lightweight portal could be used for developing
> portlets, testing portlets, embedding within web applications which
> need to aggregate content, etc. . .
> 
> Another idea we discussed was placing some of these facilities into a
> portal-commons project.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> I'm looking forward to hearing suggestions on how we can address these
> concerns and start working more closely together across portals
> projects. . .
> 
> David
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