Hi Derek, you nailed it. The preexisting application is Longwell---if you look at it you'll see the similarity of its faceted browsing framework. And indeed, our hope is to merge exhibit back into Longwell to support scaling to larger data sets. However, it isn't a simple matter of "exporting the data to the app" because then you lose the exhibit-way of presenting the data. Rather, what needs to be done is to adapt Longwell so that it interprets exhibit templates server-side. This will be very powerful: you can develop your exhibit locally over a small data set using the current, javascript template interpreter, then just push the templates into the server and get exactly the same look and feel over the larger data set stored in the server. And, it provides a great way for people who are completely uninterested in data management, and just want to focus on interesting presentations of preexisting data (ie, all those mashup writers) to do so: they just write exhibit templates and upload them to the Simile semantic bank (which of course will hold all the triples in the world).
I'm very excited about this direction; there's just the little issue of the army of programmers (or smidgin of time taken out of David Huynh's thesis ;) ) needed to get it done. -David derek | idea company wrote: > Hi David, > Just a quick question, perhaps this was answered or asked before I > joined the mailing list, so I apologize in advance if it's been brought > up. I was curious if there existed a database app, or some other > project that was similar to Exhibit that the idea to create a > databaseless app was based on. If so, perhaps a means of being able to > export the data to that app would be beneficial for users who require to > move up into a larger scale service or a service with a database. Or > perhaps could be used as an example of where to move Exhibit towards. > Cheers, > Derek > > Derek Kinsman > The Idea Company > > New Media Designer > > http://www.ideacompany.ca/ > http://boring.ambitiouslemon.com/ > 1.416.371.5652 > > > > David Huynh wrote: > >> Johan Sundström wrote: >> >> >>> On 1/25/07, David Huynh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Oh that might work! So, maybe something like this? >>>> >>>> <head> >>>> <link rel="exhibit/data" type="application/json" >>>> href="my-data.json" /> >>>> >>>> <link rel="exhibit/google-spreadsheets-data" type="application/jsonp" >>>> >>>> href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/feeds/list/o08841867754116283182.6102151849127695926/od6/public/basic?alt=json-in-javscript"; >>>> /> >>>> >>>> <!-- Just for you, Google! --> >>>> <link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS 2.0" >>>> >>>> href="http://www.foo.com/convert-exhibit-json-to-rss?url=http://people.csail.mit.edu/dfhuynh/my-data.json"; >>>> /> >>>> >>>> <link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS 2.0" >>>> >>>> href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/feeds/list/o08841867754116283182.6102151849127695926/od6/public/basic"; >>>> /> >>>> </head> >>>> >>>> How confident are we that this will work? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> At the very least, it is worth a shot and doing somefeeds. The conversion >>> is >>> >> pretty dumb for now. >> >> My own web site now has these feeds. The publications page points to a >> .rss file converted through Babel and saved statically on my own site, >> while the other pages (projects, books, quotations) point through Babel >> for on-the-fly conversion. >> >> I guess I'll sit and wait for Google to crawl :-) >> >> David >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://simile.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/general >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > [email protected] > http://simile.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/general > > =ttp://laverdadquintanaroo.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&idc3&Itemid™"><img > src="spacer.gif" alt="" border="0" height="36" widFrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sat Jan 27 14:34:58 2007 > Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Delivery-date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:34:58 -0500 > Received: from theory.lcs.mit.edu ([128.30.51.92] helo=zz.csail.mit.edu) > by smtp.theory.csail.mit.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) > (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > id 1HAtKB-0006kn-8Y > for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:34:58 -0500 > Received: from simile.mit.edu ([18.51.2.218]) > by rozz.csail.mit.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) > (Exim 4.63) > (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > id 1HAtK3-00028H-EU; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:34:47 -0500 > Received: from simile.MIT.EDU (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by simile.MIT.EDU (8.13.8/8.13.6/Debian-1) with ESMTP id l0RJYjm4015683; > Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:34:45 -0500 > Received: from rozz.csail.mit.edu ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [128.30.2.16]) > by simile.MIT.EDU (8.13.8/8.13.6/Debian-1) with ESMTP id l0RJYh6V015680 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:34:44 -0500 > Received: from dfhuynh.csail.mit.edu ([128.30.44.24]) > by rozz.csail.mit.edu with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) > (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1HAtJz-000284-B6 > for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:34:43 -0500 > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:32:42 -0500 > From: David Huynh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b2 (Windows/20070116) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: Private <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Book and Tutorial on Semantic Digital Libraries] > References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 > Precedence: list > Reply-To: Private <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > List-Id: Private <private.simile.mit.edu> > List-Unsubscribe: <http://simile.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/private>, > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > List-Archive: <http://simile.mit.edu/pipermail/private> > List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > List-Subscribe: <http://simile.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/private>, > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=s-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) > X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system > "smtp.theory.csail.mit.edu", has > identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message > has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label > similar future email. If you have any questions, see > the administrator of that system for details. > Content preview: David Karger wrote: > if david and my paper on exhibit > gets into www2007 we will probably go. > Looks like I'm going :-) I got > an email from Sebastian ... Same deal again. What should I say? > > MacKenzie Smith wrote: > >> Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: >> >>> What should > I say? >>> >> well, when he sent me this same email you advised me to > ignore it and >> get on with the work :) which I did (mainly for lack of > time, since I really should answer him) >> >> I asked if anyone was > planning to attend www2007 and no one replied. >> I will ask Sandy > Payette from Fedora why she agreed to do the workshop >> (maybe she > knows more about them and has a better impression than we do). >> >> I'm > inclined to agree to the book chapter since it's just 10 pages on DSpace > and SIMILE. Maybe we can enlist Richard to help with that :) >> >> So > you needn't reply unless you want to... >> >> MacKenzie >> >> >> >>> >>> > >>> Subject: >>> Book and Tutorial on Semantic Digital Libraries >>> > From: >>> Sebastian Ryszard Kruk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Date: >>> > Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:24:19 +0000 >>> To: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> > To: > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> CC: >>> Bill McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> >>> >>> Dear Stefano, >>> >>> I got your email from prof. Stefan > Decker, who is my supervisor at DERI >>> Galway. I lead the research on > semantic digital libraries in DERI, and I have >>> been asked by > Springer to write a book on Semantic Digital Libraries. >>> At the > moment I am looking for authors who could contribute chapters to this > >>> book. Most of them has been already found. However, I would like to > have a >>> chapter on SIMILE/dSpace project. I was trying to contact > other people from >>> your community but I've gotten no response :( >>> > Would you be interested in contributing a chapter on SIMILE/dSpace > project? >>> >>> I have set up a wiki page with all the information > about the book: >>> > http://wiki.corrib.org/index.php/Protected:Books/SemDL >>> login: > stefanom >>> password: st3fan0m5 >>> >>> I will also give a tutorial on > Semantic Digital Libraries at WWW2007, and it >>> would be great if you > could join me and my colleagues, and present SIMILE >>> [...] > Content analysis details: (-2.7 points, 11.0 required) > pts rule name description > ---- ---------------------- > -------------------------------------------------- > -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% > [score: 0.0000] > -0.1 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list > X-LocalTest: Local Origin > > David Karger wrote: > >> if david and my paper on exhibit gets into www2007 we will probably go. >> >> > Looks like I'm going :-) > > I got an email from Sebastian ... Same deal again. What should I say? > > > >> MacKenzie Smith wrote: >> >> >>> Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: >>> >>> >>>> What should I say? >>>> >>>> >>> well, when he sent me this same email you advised me to ignore it and >>> get on with the work :) which I did (mainly for lack of time, since I >>> really should answer him) >>> >>> I asked if anyone was planning to attend www2007 and no one replied. >>> I will ask Sandy Payette from Fedora why she agreed to do the workshop >>> (maybe she knows more about them and has a better impression than we do). >>> >>> I'm inclined to agree to the book chapter since it's just 10 pages on >>> DSpace and SIMILE. Maybe we can enlist Richard to help with that :) >>> >>> So you needn't reply unless you want to... >>> >>> MacKenzie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Subject: >>>> Book and Tutorial on Semantic Digital Libraries >>>> From: >>>> Sebastian Ryszard Kruk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Date: >>>> Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:24:19 +0000 >>>> To: >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> To: >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> CC: >>>> Bill McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Stefano, >>>> >>>> I got your email from prof. Stefan Decker, who is my supervisor at DERI >>>> Galway. I lead the research on semantic digital libraries in DERI, and I >>>> have >>>> been asked by Springer to write a book on Semantic Digital Libraries. >>>> At the moment I am looking for authors who could contribute chapters to >>>> this >>>> book. Most of them has been already found. However, I would like to have a >>>> chapter on SIMILE/dSpace project. I was trying to contact other people >>>> from >>>> your community but I've gotten no response :( >>>> Would you be interested in contributing a chapter on SIMILE/dSpace project? >>>> >>>> I have set up a wiki page with all the information about the book: >>>> http://wiki.corrib.org/index.php/Protected:Books/SemDL >>>> login: stefanom >>>> password: st3fan0m5 >>>> >>>> I will also give a tutorial on Semantic Digital Libraries at WWW2007, and >>>> it >>>> would be great if you could join me and my colleagues, and present SIMILE >>>> project. You can find the materials from previous tutorial given at >>>> JCDL2006 >>>> at http://www.jeromedl.org/tutorial/ >>>> >>>> Please let me know if you would like to contribute to either of the >>>> initiatives (or hopefully both). >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Sebastian Kruk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Private mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://simile.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/private >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Private mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://simile.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/private > _______________________________________________ General mailing list [email protected] http://simile.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/general
