On Apr 28, 2007, at 8:54 AM, Robert Parks wrote:
> I'd like to raise a question about the development of the Semantic
> Bank via Piggy Bank. Its a fairly theoretical question, and I'm not
> sure I'm hitting the right nail, much less that I'm hitting the head.
> If I'm getting it right, I'd like to offer some assistance. Here's
> the issue.

:)

> All of the new tagging sites save tags on the server.

Right, their are both engineering, social, and business reasons why they
are all storing it on the server side

> Piggy Bank/Semantic Bank are superior in the data they allow one to
> save. One advantage of saving tags on a server is that one can share
> and compare tags and URLs with others. Each of these groups provides
> some (limited) facilities to manage the groups one shares tags with.
>
> But this approach misses out on the opportunities that would come
> with a centralized store of tagging information.  I'd like to
> consolidate the tagging information I have accumulated in different
> repositories, both the actual URLs that are tagged, and the semantics
> of the tags I have accumulated.

That tension between the social and personal data pools (and their
semantics) is one of the cool things that PiggyBank toys with.

> Would it be possible to consolidate tagging information from multiple
> sources?

Absolutely, all it takes is scrapers for the individual sites from
whence you wish to draw your data.

> If so, then the next step I'd propose is to use a personal
> dictionary-thesaurus to manage a users' personal semantics.

Interesting.  Tags are pairs: <thing>/<tag>.  RDF is triples <item>/ 
<verb>/<object>.
I attended a light talk by Marti Hearst recently where she outlined a  
technique to
map the pairs into the triples using wordnet's thesaurus.  So if you  
had <ibm>/<blue>
you might map it into <ibm>/<color>/<blue>.  Which of course would  
help us, since
we need triples for the facet's browsing.   She does too.  That paper  
"Automating
Creation of Hierarchical Faceted Metadata Structures" and others, is  
here: <http://flamenco.berkeley.edu/pubs.html>.  I don't believe the  
system outlined
there is live on the web though.

> Any reactions?

In passing I'll note that delicious has tag bundles, which are  
analogous providing
the user with taxonomic.

> Bob Parks

  - ben

"Thoughts meander like a restless wind inside a letter box"
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