Will,

Here's the snippet from the feedback you got on the infra list. Is #1
done already?

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> And we will honor any rules from the Apache community. This include, 1. We
> can make Nabble's Apache archive read-only.  2. We can make Nabble's
> Apache area entirely Apache-branded. Please let us know what to do..

Please expedite option #1, for now. I'm not too sure about #2. I'm sure a
lot of people would really appreciate a reversal of #1 that at some point,
but I hope I shed some light on what I think needs to happen first. Please
do understand I'm not speaking for apache in any "official" capacity. We try
and avoid having to do that, its much easier when you "get" the concerns and
take care of 'em for us.
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-- dims

On 10/6/05, Will Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This message is about a new forum project called Nabble. I write to
> this list because I found that Nabble seems to have been banned from
> all the Apache WS mailing lists.
>
> One of Nabble's services is to archive public mailing lists to allow
> better search and browsing. This searchable archive idea is not new,
> but Nabble tries to improve upon the existing solutions.
>
> Take Apache as an example. There are many sub divisions in Apache,
> each division is a community in itself, and each division consists of
> several sub projects, and each project has several mailing lists.
>
> The existing archiver (mbox, MARC, Gmane, mail-archive) only provides
> a flat list of archives. You can view or search each list, but you
> cannot search, for example, the 6 lists in Axis project, or the 40
> lists in Apache WS group, or the 300 lists in entire Apache community.
> You basically need to visit each list individually.
>
> Nabble offers a hierarchical archive organized according to the Apache
> structure. Visit http://www.nabble.com/Apache-f90.html - you can
> browse or search the entire community. Or, you can drill into each
> division, for example, Apache Web Services, Jakarta, Cocoon ... to
> browse and search each community, each project, each list.
>
> Nabble is new and unknown. But as people discover it, they seem to
> like it. See this recent thread from an Apache committer:
> http://www.nabble.com/-OT-Do-you-know-nabble.com--t252499.html#a706596
>
> Nabble uses Apache Lucene for search. You can play with it and see
> that we have a better search than the other searchable archives,
> thanks to Apache Lucene.
>
> To archive a list, Nabble will subscribe to a list using the email
> address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". This is a common practice for all the
> mailing list archives. Nabble subscribes to all Apache lists.  What we
> found out recently, is that we got dropped from all the lists in the
> Apache WS group.
>
> This is a bit disheartening, because WS lists seem to allow
> third-party archiving and posting. Take [email protected] for
> example, it is archived on Gmane
> http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.text.xml.axis.user (also allows posting
> from Gmane site to Axis list), Mail-archive.com
> (http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/). Also, there is
> a discussion about allowing third-party mirror here:
> http://www.nabble.com/GMANE-t271666.html#a776287
>
> Could you please let us know why is Nabble not allowed to subscribe to
> WS lists? And what the WS community would like Nabble to do? We would
> love to hear the community's wishes and we will respect your demand.
> Needless to say, if the community wants the Nabble mirror to be
> deleted, we will do it right away.
>
> Thanks for your time and I look forward to hearing from you.
>


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