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        [09:58] Deepal: now wre are dicsussing abt mesage flow

        [09:59] Deepal: in the client side

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        [10:40] Deepal: good discussion

        [10:40] Deepal: abt client flow

        [10:40] Deepal: we found an issue

        [10:40] Deepal: when we send the mesage using two-channel blocking

        [10:41] Deepal: we are not hadling when there is a soap fault which 
come on the back channel

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        [10:45] azeez: hi guys

        [10:46] azeez: Is it possible to introduce an exception to the 
flowComplete method of a Handler 

        [10:46] Deepal: hmm

        [10:46] azeez: i.e. flowComplete throws AxisFault ?

        [10:46] Deepal: may be

        [10:46] davidillsley: hi azeez

        [10:46] davidillsley: we've been round that before

        [10:46] Deepal: btw what we are going to do with that

        [10:47] azeez: hi david

        [10:47] gdaniels: you want flowComplete() throws AxisFault?

        [10:47] azeez: here is my scenario

        [10:47] davidillsley: it's important that all the flowCompletes get 
called

        [10:47] gdaniels: I agree w/Deepal - what do you do with it?

        [10:47] azeez: In the clustering implementation, there is a 
REplicationHandler

        [10:48] azeez: so I replicate the state on flowCompletion

        [10:48] azeez: something can go wrong at this phase, and the client has 
to be notified about this

        [10:49] azeez: was thinking whether a fault can be thrown from the 
flowComplete method, so that a SOAP Fault can be sent to the client

        [10:49] gdaniels: I'm not sure that's a good use of flowComplete()

        [10:49] gdaniels: I would think that flowComplete() would mean "no, 
really, the flow is DONE.  All messages have already been sent, resources are 
ready to clean up, etc"

        [10:49] azeez: hmm....

        [10:50] azeez: may be the call for replication has to go elsewhere in 
the code, possibly into the core, not another handler

        [10:51] davidillsley: so we could modify the code that calls 
flowComplete to catch any exceptions, ensure all the flowCompletes are called 
and then re-throw the first exception it got

        [10:52] azeez: david, I was also thinking of something in that line

        [10:52] gdaniels: so when are you currently calling this, Afkham?  
After the MessageReceiver has been invoked on the inbound flow but before the 
outbound flow has happened?

        [10:52] davidillsley: that maintains the contract of flowComplete and 
if the transport or MEP has something it can do with the fault (likely given 
the relative positions of the engine and transport) then it'll deal with it

        [10:53] azeez: the ReplicationHandler instance is placed on each flow

        [10:53] azeez: depending on the MEP, a particular instance will get 
called

        [10:54] azeez: e.g. for an in only mep, RH gets called on flowComplete 
of the instance in the InFlow

        [10:54] gdaniels: and for in/out?

        [10:54] davidillsley: here's a mail from a relevant thread (I don't 
know how to link to the thread)

        [10:54] davidillsley: http://marc.info/?l=axis-dev&m=117394114131797&w=2

        [10:55] azeez: for in out, the flowComplete of the out flow RH gets 
invoked

        [10:55] azeez: see ReplicationHandler flowComplete method

        [10:55] gdaniels: so after the outflow is complete, hasn't the response 
already been sent?

        [10:55] gdaniels: i.e. it's too late to inject a fault anyway

        [10:56] davidillsley: if you look at that link, it looks like bill 
debunked my idea last time round and that you're right :-)

        [10:57] gdaniels: :)

        [10:58] azeez: david has a good point in his mail thread, how do we 
deal with exceptions that occur during flowComplete, which will actually occur 
in practice?

        [10:58] gdaniels: there's this great thing called log4j :)

        [10:58] azeez: :D

        [10:59] gdaniels: if an exception in flowComplete() puts us at serious 
risk, btw, you could always do something like shut off services, etc.

        [10:59] gdaniels: log a serious error, shut down a faulty service so it 
always returns a fault that says "unavailable"

        [11:01] azeez: ok.... I'll come up with some other mechanism to handle 
the Replication... looks like a handler is not the appropriate place to handle 
the replication

        [11:01] azeez: one other question.... there has been some API changes 
yesterday

        [11:04] azeez: removal of getEngagedModules

        [11:04] gdaniels: we've been discussing that here - it's going to be 
reverted

        [11:05] gdaniels: well, not really - I mean fixed to return AxisModule 
references everywhere

        [11:05] gdaniels: so it'll be back

        [11:05] azeez: the method getEngagedModulesNames is gonna be removed?

        [11:05] gdaniels: right

        [11:05] azeez: phew :)

        [11:05] gdaniels: :)

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        [12:40] gdaniels: Breaking for lunch - back in maybe 45

        [12:41] gdaniels: (figure 1:30)

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        [13:32] Deepal: I am working on fault handling

        [13:32] Deepal: when we send the req in two channel

        [13:33] Deepal: and we get the fault reseponse in the sending path

        [13:33] gdaniels: Game plan for the afternoon - everyone is going to 
work on JIRAs for a few hours

        [13:33] srinathp: Couple of comments on cleanups in client API

        [13:34] gdaniels: We'll paste which issues we're up to in here, and 
collaborate dynamically as appropriate (hey, that sounds like Alek's thing!)

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        [13:35] srinathp: 1) shutdown input stream of the response - When 
service client return a response it can not shutdown the the input stream (and 
associated socket) because OM may not have read it so far. We support this by 
method cleanupTransport(), but we need to document it clearly.  Also we decided 
we should change the method name, readCompleted(). 

        [13:35] srinathp: 2) shutdown the transport Listener - service client 
cleanup can not shutdown the Transport listener as same transport listener 
(with configuration context). To handle this we need to add reference counting 
to transport listener manager. It is also good idea to allow grace wait for 
somebody else to reuse 

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