> One reason is that they have found that a small focused PMC/committer > set takes better care of the code, web site, releases, legal issues > and basic oversight of day to day workings of a PMC better than a huge > umbrella PMC. For example, personally i think Synapse has thrived > after it left the fold. > I have to agree with Dims here , because at the moment WS is a very big project with a number of sub-projects. And WS consists of three main project as well , which is Apache SOAP , Axis1 and Axis2. Specially Axis1 and Axis2 has a number of sub projects as well. So managing them efficient manner is a challenging job , and specially for the PMC chair it is lot of work. Therefore it is always a good idea to modularize them. > Take a look at our web site(s), take a look at our release > schedules(s) - for all projects, take a look at our bug tracker(s). > Does anyone see that we are doing an excellent job? > I am sorry I do not understand what do you mean by bug tracker , is that the problem of number of issues or is it a problem of we are not taking care of them ? > We need to gather momentum, going TLP is an excellent way to do that. > A small focused team that is working on a single goal of getting a > good set of Axis2 related projects going is i think the right way to > go. I think the Axis2 eco system will do better when we go TLP. > :) > Personally, I'd really like to get all of us committed, willing and > able to contribute in a much more coordinated fashion then we are > today. We don't hang out on IRC, no weekly chats, not much forward > looking discussions, not much enthusiasm or cooperation anymore from > looking at the mailing lists. I am trying to see if we can jumpstart > that as well with this proposal. > Well part of the reason behind that is everyone is busy with their day to day work , for example when we start Axis2 we were fully focus on Axis2 . So it was so easy for us to do all those , but now we work on Axis2 and answer the mail when we get some free time. Anyway I agree that there are some improvements that we need to do.
Thanks Deepal > fwiw, Juddi and xmlrpc do not have sufficient people on board to go > TLP as of this moment. Yes, we should try harder to get more people > involved there or we end up moth-balling them. > > thanks, > dims > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 1:46 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm -1 because the Axis2 project is not just axis2- its a collection of >> enabling pieces (axiom, neethi at least) and a bunch of up stream components >> (rampart, sandesha2, kandula2, wss4j etc.). So its really the "web services" >> project with an entire ws-* framework being covered by that. Calling the >> whole thing axis2 is not right as its not just about axis2. >> >> I would like to clearly identify components within the ws project that are >> retired or "finished". These include (from what I know) scout, wsif, axis1, >> jaxme, kandula1, and sandesha1. However, as Nadra's message shows, there are >> parts of the "axis1 family" still alive and kicking. >> >> There are other projects that I think do not use axis1 or axis2 - for >> example juddi & xmlrpc - that I think could go TLP on their own to reduce >> the size of ws. >> >> So I'm -1. >> >> However, Glen, what was the motivation for originating that thread? Is there >> something broken that needs to be fixed? IIRC Dims was always against >> splitting when he was PMC chair and I'd like to hear the reason for and >> against by both Glen and Dims too. >> >> Sanjiva. >> >> Davanum Srinivas wrote: >> >>> Folks, >>> >>> There was a WS PMC thread which has not yet shown up here.... >>> >>> So, WDYT? Could we spin off Axis2 and related projects into a separate >>> TLP? Pros / Cons / Thoughts welcome. >>> >>> thanks, >>> dims >>> >>> >> -- >> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. >> Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ >> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/ >> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/ >> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/ >> >> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/ >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> > > > > -- Thank you! http://blogs.deepal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]