I prefer 3v1. How about framesets to avoid "complex tables"? The TOC could be in the left panel and the title bar in a horizontal panel on top, and could be set up so the TOC and title never scroll out of view. Also simplifies printing the body without wasting space taken up by the TOC and title bar. This would require modifying external links to include target=" _top", but we should be able to handle that in a stylesheet. -- Don Leslie
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/01/2001 10:27:56 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Donald Leslie/CAM/Lotus) Subject: Re: website++: some ideas... ... version 3 seems to be gaining consensus... I'm not sure the vertical navigation bar will force the use of complex tables. A horizontal one is surely feasible, but it implies re-working the navigation structure, as the number of primary links actually on the site would make it impossible, and I can't make that decision. The cloud background should be also feasible to realise as a tiling image and it'll be placed as table background - I will run tests, but my guess is that the content of the page will be available while the browser loads the image. Thanks Max At 9:57 AM -0500 11/1/01, Berin Loritsch wrote: >I like the overall look of these sites, and prefer version 3 as it looks >better. However, the following criticisms can hopefully help the site >as a whole: > >* The concept of Right Hand and Left Hand navigation bars force the use > of complex tables. As a result, the text does not reflow easily. > Try using a two row horizontal navigation menu instead. The first > row has the major headings, and the bottom row has all the sub headings: > > Main Headings: > Home Projects Distribution Info Getting Involved People Contact Info > > SubHeadings: > Home: > Home News Mission Guidelines > Projects: > Xerces Java 1 Xerces Java 2 Xerces C++ Xerces Perl Xalan Java 2 > Xalan C++ FOP Cocoon 1 Cocoon 2 Xang SOAP Batik Crimson Axis > XML Security > Distribution Info: > Downloads Bug Database > Getting Involved: > Get Involved Repositories Mailing Lists Reference > People: > Who We Are Credits > Contact Info: > Legal Stuff Contact Info > > With all the menu stuff at the top, it still feels natural, but the site > feels more organized and the content is most emphasized. > >* The cloud background behind xml.apache.org may be a bit much. If it is > easily tiled, then it might be worth exploring--but it looks like one large > graphic. > >* I LOVE the navigation status bar (xml.apache.org > home). This is a must > have. -- ------------------------------ Max Guglielmino Corrosive http://www.corrosive.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- In case of troubles, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- In case of troubles, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
