>----- Original Message ----- >From: "Henning von Bargen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> A HTML page should simply be coded in a linear fashion > (I read that somewhere in an article about designing web pages for impaired > readers), I've never heard of the horizontally impaired :) - joking, I understand what you mean It would certainly make life easier to build one column pages :) The last 'professional' website I made was: http://teenlearningnetwork.com (very heavy and if your browser has trouble with tables it will have trouble with this site...) you would not believe the battles I had to go through to get them to conform to some _minimum_ usability standards (I failed in many ways...). Both the designer and executive producer wanted a 'flashy' site to attract the kiddies. I came in after the site was designed and just applied some xml/xslt/java goodness to generate the site. I'd like to see somebody layout that design without tables :) I guess my point is my mortgage in SF is expensive and I have to pay the bills... > so that it is usable with screen readers. > As a rule of thumb, it should be more or less possible to read the html code > like a book if you think all the html tags stripped off. but that does not suit everybody's needs. So you feel there should not even be a side-nav-bar? I work a good deal with designers (well, actually graphic artists...). Just like when you guys look at a a highly styled page and feel it is ridiculous, they look at a basic one column layout and cry "Amatuer!" It has been my experience that the designer is there with the client way before the developer. So they have early infleunce. And in many cases the person paying for the site wants something 'that stands out.' > Tables should be used for tabular data only inside the content > and (as a practical exception) can be used inside toolbars at the top and > bottom > which aren't part of the content. yes, and personal computers are for spreadsheets -- can you imagine the security risks if pc's were networked? Curious, why do make just the one practical exception? > BTW, the text resizing problem you mentioned above is exactly the same with > fixed-size tables. > All that pixel-measuring-stuff should be left to the browsers. > that is not my experience. Absolutely positioned DIVs can (and do if text is resized) overlap each other. Table cells push each other one way or the other (or the text wraps). So, yes, it is best to let the browser handle it (but first give it some idea what to do) best, -Rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- In case of troubles, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]