---- Torsten Curdt wrote: ----
> > ...why don't we just store the uri where the required jar can
> > be found and let "ant" get those jars for us? 

---- you Andy Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ----
> For the same reason that I was opposed to changing the Xerces-J
> build to pull the xml-commons code from CVS: it requires a net
> connection to build the code. Plus, some of the URLs may require
> a user to register and/or accept some license agreement before
> downloading the package which would complicate the process of
> automating the download.

In some ways I really have to side with Andy on this one.  Although I
definitely understand some developer's wish to build everything
directly from sources (i.e the argument to never have .jars in CVS),
I'm also very concerned about the average user or new developer who
just wants the stuff to work without having to jump through hoops to
compile it or run it.  

Also requiring a net connection to do every build is a really bad idea
IMO - there are plenty of valid reasons why folks might want to do work
without the network.  This also goes for being cross-platform: we need
to support users on Windoze as well as the unixes of the world so I
think it is important to include .bat files in most cases where we have
.sh scripts for bootstraps, etc.  (But that's a different issue...)

- Shane

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