David,

It is precisely this lack of oversight that is driving the addition of
additional people to the PMC.  Unfortunately, I missed commons because I
used the nav menu of the site to remind me of all the projects.   Every
project remaining should be represented on the PMC.   If all the XML
committers are also commons committers, do we hold the election for commons
in general@ or commons-dev@?

Ted

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From: "David Crossley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: xml.apache.org refactoring #1 - expansion of PMC


> Ted Leung wrote:
> > As you are no doubt aware, the ASF board has approved two
> > new PMC's: one for Web Services (to include Axis, SOAP, XML-RPC,
> > and XML-Security), and one for Cocoon.
> >
> > In keeping with the proposal that I made last week, I'd like
> > each of the remaining subprojects to elect 1 or 2 persons as they
> > see fit to represent them on the XML PMC.  I would like to see
> > these elections completed by Friday, Jan 31.   If you need vote
> > counting support please send a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  The
> > remaining active projects are:
> >
> > Axkit
> > Batik
> > Crimson
> > Fop
> > Forrest
> > Xalan
> > Xerces-J
> > Xerces-C
> > Xerces-P
> > Xindice
> >
> > Please send your vote results to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> It indicates a serious problem that the xml-commons
> project is omitted from many announcements and decisions.
> If xml-commons does not need representation on the PMC, then
> i think that such announcements should explicitly say so.
>
> There is very little help from the other xml projects on
> xml-commons. It seems to completely slip people's minds
> that they are also by default, committers on xml-commons.
> The project is languishing, yet it has very important
> components that need wider recognition and support.
> --David
>
>
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