Hi Ted,

> Look in /home/cvs/CVSROOT /avail on cvs.apache.org.

Ah; thanks.

> For Xerces-n this is true.  You'll notice that there is on CVS repo for
all
> of Xerces.

Right.  Which means that if we were to adhere to the letter of the charter,
it would almost never be possible to get a majority vote of *active* Xerces
committers--let alone of all Xerces committers--on anything, because people
generally stay within the bounds of the language they're familiar with.

Note that I'm not arguing for new repositories or indeed for any other
change; the status quo seems to work pretty well.  Just that when we're
finalizing the charter, we'll need to take care not to disallow special
cases like this.

> You can check out xml-xalan, but my reading of the avail file says you
wont'
> be able to commit.

Interesting.  Yet I can't check out jakarta-struts, for example, except via
anoncvs.  Can anyone explain this?  It might be fun to test this, except
that it might somehow succeed.  :)

> I think that each subproject pretty much knows who its active
participants
> are.

The trouble is that, if we're writing rules about how subprojects should
work, I'm not sure "pretty much knowing" is a high enough bar.  What we're
basically saying here is that sometimes committers can be safely ignored;
some day, some disagreement may arise about that, where perceptions might
differ.  An edge case perhaps, but one it would seem best to prepare for by
making things as objective and as clear as possible.

> The problem is having things in the charter about x/y majorities for
votes.  One
> way to fix that is to forget the x/y majorities and give each subproject
one vote.  I'm
> not sure if that is better or worse.

So does Xerces-* get one vote or three?  :)  But I think this could help in
terms of the overall project, but it still doesn't seem to help us
determine things like how to know when we have the majority of active
committers votes counted for a new committer, etc.

Cheers,
Neil
Neil Graham
XML Parser Development
IBM Toronto Lab
Phone:  905-413-3519, T/L 969-3519
E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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