On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 07:26 PM, Ted Leung wrote:

I'd like to highlight a few items in this message because they bear repeating....

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Forwarding, Craig McClanahan wrote:
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* My only concern about XmlBeans, quite frankly, is
one that you did not raise directly -- in the Java
space there is a standard API for binding XML to Java
objects (JAXB), and XmlBeans is not an implementation
of that standard.  That's not necessarily a fatal flaw
(after all, my favorite webapp framework is not a
standard either, although it is being impacted by the
ones I deal with in my "day job" -- Servlet, JSP,
JSTL, and JavaServer Faces), but it is a consideration
to think about.  Indeed, considering some of the loud
voices at Apache, and their opinions on Java standards
and the JCP, this might well be a positive :-).  But
it should be factored in to thinking about the effort
that will be acquired to attract and maintain a
developer community, and a user community, should
XmlBeans be accepted.  The XML community already has
examples of both communities that implement standard
APIs, and those who are innovating on their own.

I refer you to the roadmap for XML Beans that Cliff Schimdt provided
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?XmlBeansRoadMap
which includes JSR-31 compatibility if the community deems that
interesting enough  to provide.  So I think we are covered there.

Bravo Craig for taking the time to write such a great post!

+1


web services already has a proposal about incubating a JAXB implementation.
this is based on JaxMe and IMHO probably offers the fastest route to a compliant apache implementation. my hope is that XMLBeans will refine and tighten their proposal, focusing at first on their current strengths (which seem to be distinctive enough to create a distinct identity within the family of mapping and binding libraries available from apache).


it seems to me that often the best solutions emerge not in the first generation but in the second or third generations. so, i'd like to see XMLBeans (as well as JaxMe) here at apache so that it's technologies and community can be mined (together with the existing mapping components in jakarta) to create these solutions.

- robert


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